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From: kittyp2060@hotmail.com
"noname" wrote in message news:nuq2jj$5ma$8@dont-email.me...
>
> djinn wrote:
> > "Tang Huyen" wrote in message
> > news:12d646fc-fa85-9255-ca77-baf37fe7658c@gmail.com...
> >>
> >> On 10/25/2016 11:58 AM, dagnabit wrote:
> >>
> >>> if you want to identify the fake "awakeneds", and
> >>> here in these groups they do seem to come and go
> >>> on a regular basis, you can read the words of
> >>> christ, krishna, buddha, ramana maharshi, and
> >>> nisargadatta maharaj and put aside their words
> >>> and look for the commonality in the phrasing and
> >>> expression, because they all have a similar way in
> >>> attempting to put their state into words.
> >>>
> >>> one thing you can look for is any attempt at words
> >>> connected to any kind of security and survival status,
> >>> because when you're in that heightened state the last
> >>> thing you will be concerned about is security or survival.
> >>>
> >>> this is, of course, just my substantially less than humble
> >>> opinion and your spiritual dining and dancing mileage
> >>> can indeed vary.
> >>
> >> In your early posts, you often talked of survival with
> >> negative connotations.
> >>
> >> < >> and another when all your doing is dividing its chances
> >> of being anywhere near real ? Individual doership is an
> >> illusion created by consciousMess in its wide array of
> >> survival tactics. This is one of the Gunas, or influences
> >> on behaviour.
> >> The other two , as such, are said to be passion and
> >> compassion. Everyone thrives on an admixture of the
> >> three. These false phantom identities created by us
> >> starting in infancy were piled onto the first concept,
> >> " I Am". Your true nature was stung by a scorpion and
> >> that scorpion is consciousMess.
> >> Without these false identities compromising an ability
> >> to abide in true nature, the disguises would fall and the
> >> masquerade would be over.>>
> >>
> >> < >> has an immense love to be. It creates many strategies
> >> to ensure its survival. ConsciousMess uses every
> >> avenue possible to survive including many delusions
> >> fostered upon its many different expressions, some in
> >> the roles of autonomous psychosomatic apparatuses
> >> processing limited sense inputs. It is consciousMess'
> >> desire to believe that it has the right to exist as will as
> >> one of its inexhaustible supply of methods of survival.>>
> >>
> >> < >> horseshit make 'lovely' bloom ? Your speculation stems
> >> from a body-mind identification level and stagnates you
> >> at a conceptual understanding and reasoning
> >> sub-stratum. Your judgement and belief buffers are
> >> fueling the emotional addictions that foster the security
> >> maskings that veil your true intuitive noumenal
> >> apperception. A decentralizing and decreating of the
> >> word-knowledge blinders that fog your true nature can
> >> be easily accomplished by a detached affectionate
> >> awareness that responds spontaneously rather than
> >> reacting with thinking and emotional baggage.( how's
> >> that ? )>>
> >>
> >> < >> true nature is perfect, whole and complete and needs
> >> nothing. Only a conceptually reasoning intellect believes
> >> it can 'better deal' itself and make greater and greater
> >> intellectual delicacies out of its array of judgement and
> >> belief buffering.>>
> >>
> >> < >> mine. How many times do I need to stress that until it
> >> registers with you ? ALL shit stinks. ALL knowledge,
> >> wisdom, concepts, theories, ideas, GUESSES, religions,
> >> disciplines, practices, learning, etc., etc., etc., is all
> >> temporary, transient, time-bound and essentially,
> >> ultimately useless.
> >> Your true nature is essentially perfect and has no need
> >> for any of these things. You're trying to climb your way
> >> out of a hole that you're not even in.>>
> >>
> >> < >> infinity. Manifest consciousness has infinite possibility
> >> and the Absolute has infinite possibility. If your belief
> >> buffers have judged for you that I am prideful and
> >> arrogant, remember that no matter what you do you will
> >> retain vestiges of the hereditary and genetic momentum
> >> that limits the infinite potential of manifest
> >> consciousness in your appearance of individuality and
> >> that 'ego' is just a result of consciousness' love to be.
> >> Ego will retain shades of these results of the variances
> >> manifest when consciousness devises enough survival
> >> tactics in its struggle to be. In identification with the
> >> manifest phenomenalities, ego's many colors are the
> >> saving grace of consciousness in its quest to remain
> >> conscious of itself in its many forms of expression.>>
> >>
> >> < >> Only the manifest consciousness seeks itself a purpose
> >> as a built in survival tactic.
> >> [snip]
> >> I was told all of my life by others that I had no personality
> >> and I looked around at others and thought; " Goddamned
> >> good thing I don't." My state is unconditioned, causeless
> >> and attributeless.>>
> >>
> >> Tang Huyen
> >
> > impermanence is key. nothing survives, not even
> > the universe, according to some. working towards
> > survival is going against the grain of the natural
> > processes in place,
>
> That argues against evolution doesn't it?
>
> > and security is never possible
> > for the temporary human disguise, and the true self
> > doesn't need security.
> >
>
> The true self knows where security comes from and doesn't want the dish
> because it comes with a collar.
>
>
> email: noname.1234567.abcdef@gmail.com
I think if you reread slowly what djinn wrote- maybe a few times - it might
begin to open up something that would help with the anger and suffering a
bit?
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