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"Kitty P" wrote in message news:nuqeff$euq$1@dont-email.me...
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> "noname" wrote in message news:nuq2jj$5ma$8@dont-email.me...
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> > djinn wrote:
> > > "Tang Huyen" wrote in message
> > > news:12d646fc-fa85-9255-ca77-baf37fe7658c@gmail.com...
> > >>
> > >> On 10/25/2016 11:58 AM, dagnabit wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> if you want to identify the fake "awakeneds", and
> > >>> here in these groups they do seem to come and go
> > >>> on a regular basis, you can read the words of
> > >>> christ, krishna, buddha, ramana maharshi, and
> > >>> nisargadatta maharaj and put aside their words
> > >>> and look for the commonality in the phrasing and
> > >>> expression, because they all have a similar way in
> > >>> attempting to put their state into words.
> > >>>
> > >>> one thing you can look for is any attempt at words
> > >>> connected to any kind of security and survival status,
> > >>> because when you're in that heightened state the last
> > >>> thing you will be concerned about is security or survival.
> > >>>
> > >>> this is, of course, just my substantially less than humble
> > >>> opinion and your spiritual dining and dancing mileage
> > >>> can indeed vary.
> > >>
> > >> In your early posts, you often talked of survival with
> > >> negative connotations.
> > >>
> > >> < > >> and another when all your doing is dividing its chances
> > >> of being anywhere near real ? Individual doership is an
> > >> illusion created by consciousMess in its wide array of
> > >> survival tactics. This is one of the Gunas, or influences
> > >> on behaviour.
> > >> The other two , as such, are said to be passion and
> > >> compassion. Everyone thrives on an admixture of the
> > >> three. These false phantom identities created by us
> > >> starting in infancy were piled onto the first concept,
> > >> " I Am". Your true nature was stung by a scorpion and
> > >> that scorpion is consciousMess.
> > >> Without these false identities compromising an ability
> > >> to abide in true nature, the disguises would fall and the
> > >> masquerade would be over.>>
> > >>
> > >> < > >> has an immense love to be. It creates many strategies
> > >> to ensure its survival. ConsciousMess uses every
> > >> avenue possible to survive including many delusions
> > >> fostered upon its many different expressions, some in
> > >> the roles of autonomous psychosomatic apparatuses
> > >> processing limited sense inputs. It is consciousMess'
> > >> desire to believe that it has the right to exist as will as
> > >> one of its inexhaustible supply of methods of survival.>>
> > >>
> > >> < > >> horseshit make 'lovely' bloom ? Your speculation stems
> > >> from a body-mind identification level and stagnates you
> > >> at a conceptual understanding and reasoning
> > >> sub-stratum. Your judgement and belief buffers are
> > >> fueling the emotional addictions that foster the security
> > >> maskings that veil your true intuitive noumenal
> > >> apperception. A decentralizing and decreating of the
> > >> word-knowledge blinders that fog your true nature can
> > >> be easily accomplished by a detached affectionate
> > >> awareness that responds spontaneously rather than
> > >> reacting with thinking and emotional baggage.( how's
> > >> that ? )>>
> > >>
> > >> < > >> true nature is perfect, whole and complete and needs
> > >> nothing. Only a conceptually reasoning intellect believes
> > >> it can 'better deal' itself and make greater and greater
> > >> intellectual delicacies out of its array of judgement and
> > >> belief buffering.>>
> > >>
> > >> < > >> mine. How many times do I need to stress that until it
> > >> registers with you ? ALL shit stinks. ALL knowledge,
> > >> wisdom, concepts, theories, ideas, GUESSES, religions,
> > >> disciplines, practices, learning, etc., etc., etc., is all
> > >> temporary, transient, time-bound and essentially,
> > >> ultimately useless.
> > >> Your true nature is essentially perfect and has no need
> > >> for any of these things. You're trying to climb your way
> > >> out of a hole that you're not even in.>>
> > >>
> > >> < > >> infinity. Manifest consciousness has infinite possibility
> > >> and the Absolute has infinite possibility. If your belief
> > >> buffers have judged for you that I am prideful and
> > >> arrogant, remember that no matter what you do you will
> > >> retain vestiges of the hereditary and genetic momentum
> > >> that limits the infinite potential of manifest
> > >> consciousness in your appearance of individuality and
> > >> that 'ego' is just a result of consciousness' love to be.
> > >> Ego will retain shades of these results of the variances
> > >> manifest when consciousness devises enough survival
> > >> tactics in its struggle to be. In identification with the
> > >> manifest phenomenalities, ego's many colors are the
> > >> saving grace of consciousness in its quest to remain
> > >> conscious of itself in its many forms of expression.>>
> > >>
> > >> < > >> Only the manifest consciousness seeks itself a purpose
> > >> as a built in survival tactic.
> > >> [snip]
> > >> I was told all of my life by others that I had no personality
> > >> and I looked around at others and thought; " Goddamned
> > >> good thing I don't." My state is unconditioned, causeless
> > >> and attributeless.>>
> > >>
> > >> Tang Huyen
> > >
> > > impermanence is key. nothing survives, not even
> > > the universe, according to some. working towards
> > > survival is going against the grain of the natural
> > > processes in place,
> >
> > That argues against evolution doesn't it?
> >
> > > and security is never possible
> > > for the temporary human disguise, and the true self
> > > doesn't need security.
> > >
> >
> > The true self knows where security comes from and doesn't want the dish
> > because it comes with a collar.
> >
> >
> > email: noname.1234567.abcdef@gmail.com
>
> I think if you reread slowly what djinn wrote- maybe a few times - it
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