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dagnabit wrote:
> "Kitty P" wrote in message news:nuqeff$euq$1@dont-email.me...
>>
>> "noname" wrote in message news:nuq2jj$5ma$8@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> djinn wrote:
>>>> "Tang Huyen" wrote in message
>>>> news:12d646fc-fa85-9255-ca77-baf37fe7658c@gmail.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/25/2016 11:58 AM, dagnabit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> if you want to identify the fake "awakeneds", and
>>>>>> here in these groups they do seem to come and go
>>>>>> on a regular basis, you can read the words of
>>>>>> christ, krishna, buddha, ramana maharshi, and
>>>>>> nisargadatta maharaj and put aside their words
>>>>>> and look for the commonality in the phrasing and
>>>>>> expression, because they all have a similar way in
>>>>>> attempting to put their state into words.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> one thing you can look for is any attempt at words
>>>>>> connected to any kind of security and survival status,
>>>>>> because when you're in that heightened state the last
>>>>>> thing you will be concerned about is security or survival.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this is, of course, just my substantially less than humble
>>>>>> opinion and your spiritual dining and dancing mileage
>>>>>> can indeed vary.
>>>>>
>>>>> In your early posts, you often talked of survival with
>>>>> negative connotations.
>>>>>
>>>>> <>>>> and another when all your doing is dividing its chances
>>>>> of being anywhere near real ? Individual doership is an
>>>>> illusion created by consciousMess in its wide array of
>>>>> survival tactics. This is one of the Gunas, or influences
>>>>> on behaviour.
>>>>> The other two , as such, are said to be passion and
>>>>> compassion. Everyone thrives on an admixture of the
>>>>> three. These false phantom identities created by us
>>>>> starting in infancy were piled onto the first concept,
>>>>> " I Am". Your true nature was stung by a scorpion and
>>>>> that scorpion is consciousMess.
>>>>> Without these false identities compromising an ability
>>>>> to abide in true nature, the disguises would fall and the
>>>>> masquerade would be over.>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <>>>> has an immense love to be. It creates many strategies
>>>>> to ensure its survival. ConsciousMess uses every
>>>>> avenue possible to survive including many delusions
>>>>> fostered upon its many different expressions, some in
>>>>> the roles of autonomous psychosomatic apparatuses
>>>>> processing limited sense inputs. It is consciousMess'
>>>>> desire to believe that it has the right to exist as will as
>>>>> one of its inexhaustible supply of methods of survival.>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <>>>> horseshit make 'lovely' bloom ? Your speculation stems
>>>>> from a body-mind identification level and stagnates you
>>>>> at a conceptual understanding and reasoning
>>>>> sub-stratum. Your judgement and belief buffers are
>>>>> fueling the emotional addictions that foster the security
>>>>> maskings that veil your true intuitive noumenal
>>>>> apperception. A decentralizing and decreating of the
>>>>> word-knowledge blinders that fog your true nature can
>>>>> be easily accomplished by a detached affectionate
>>>>> awareness that responds spontaneously rather than
>>>>> reacting with thinking and emotional baggage.( how's
>>>>> that ? )>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <>>>> true nature is perfect, whole and complete and needs
>>>>> nothing. Only a conceptually reasoning intellect believes
>>>>> it can 'better deal' itself and make greater and greater
>>>>> intellectual delicacies out of its array of judgement and
>>>>> belief buffering.>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <>>>> mine. How many times do I need to stress that until it
>>>>> registers with you ? ALL shit stinks. ALL knowledge,
>>>>> wisdom, concepts, theories, ideas, GUESSES, religions,
>>>>> disciplines, practices, learning, etc., etc., etc., is all
>>>>> temporary, transient, time-bound and essentially,
>>>>> ultimately useless.
>>>>> Your true nature is essentially perfect and has no need
>>>>> for any of these things. You're trying to climb your way
>>>>> out of a hole that you're not even in.>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <>>>> infinity. Manifest consciousness has infinite possibility
>>>>> and the Absolute has infinite possibility. If your belief
>>>>> buffers have judged for you that I am prideful and
>>>>> arrogant, remember that no matter what you do you will
>>>>> retain vestiges of the hereditary and genetic momentum
>>>>> that limits the infinite potential of manifest
>>>>> consciousness in your appearance of individuality and
>>>>> that 'ego' is just a result of consciousness' love to be.
>>>>> Ego will retain shades of these results of the variances
>>>>> manifest when consciousness devises enough survival
>>>>> tactics in its struggle to be. In identification with the
>>>>> manifest phenomenalities, ego's many colors are the
>>>>> saving grace of consciousness in its quest to remain
>>>>> conscious of itself in its many forms of expression.>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <>>>> Only the manifest consciousness seeks itself a purpose
>>>>> as a built in survival tactic.
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>> I was told all of my life by others that I had no personality
>>>>> and I looked around at others and thought; " Goddamned
>>>>> good thing I don't." My state is unconditioned, causeless
>>>>> and attributeless.>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tang Huyen
>>>>
>>>> impermanence is key. nothing survives, not even
>>>> the universe, according to some. working towards
>>>> survival is going against the grain of the natural
>>>> processes in place,
>>>
>>> That argues against evolution doesn't it?
>>>
>>>> and security is never possible
>>>> for the temporary human disguise, and the true self
>>>> doesn't need security.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The true self knows where security comes from and doesn't want the dish
>>> because it comes with a collar.
>>>
>>>
>>> email: noname.1234567.abcdef@gmail.com
>>
>> I think if you reread slowly what djinn wrote- maybe a few times - it
>> might begin to open up something that would help with the anger and
>> suffering a bit?
>
> due to the ways that comfort zones are initiated,
> any such zone that dwells specific to the momentum
> of the trajectory of a given perspective, there can be
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