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   From: invalid@invalid.invalid   
      
   {:-])))  wrote:   
   > Tang wrote:   
   >   
   >> I take it to be a service that we render each other,   
   >> in trying to make each other aware of how we live up   
   >> to our words, or not. In general, I hope that we try to   
   >> make each other see how others see us, to help us   
   >> break out from our respective cocoon.   
   >   
   > Hears an idiom.   
   > The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.   
   >   
   > Question: if you had a part to play in someone's suicide   
   > by the mere words you take no credit for reflecting   
   > back to them, on a screen, would you do it again the same?   
   >   
   > If you claim that by holding a mirror up to someone   
   > you had no part to play in their demise, what would you say   
   > such a claim might be called?   
   >   
   > - hypothetically   
   >   
      
   I need to say a few words about suicide.  I've been there, on the edge,   
   loaded gun in hand, staring at the thing and finding no reason to go on   
   with the charade.  It pissed me off bigtime, that not only can a human   
   being be shoved into such a corner, but that any such human being must do   
   the wetwork himself, without even the aid of a euthanasia clinic to make   
   things tidy for whoever discovers the mess.  Not everyone has available to   
   them the kind of anger which in that instance saved my life, some are more   
   gentle creatures who prefer to slip quietly into the night.  But all that   
   aside, the final responsibility always rests with the individual who makes   
   the last choice, suicide isn't something one can be pushed through, but one   
   can certainly be pushed to the point of considering it.   
      
   Testing is wonderful stuff, it lets you know if you've learnt the material,   
   but it's pointless without a certificate of competency, and nobody I've   
   encountered yet in this life is qualified to grant such a thing, especially   
   not in the area of "mental culture".  I believe it's possible for people to   
   learn, but not that they can be made to learn.   
      
   Maybe I now qualify for the "Stupidest Of Breed" award, but I think I'd   
   need to decline in favor of society.   
      
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