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   From: invalid@invalid.invalid   
      
   Wilson  wrote:   
   > On 10/31/2016 10:59 AM, dagnabit wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> "Wilson"  wrote in message news:nv7g2f$pp1$1@dont-email.me...   
   >> On 10/30/2016 5:58 PM, dagnabit wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> "liaM"  wrote in message news:nv5pbu$3ks$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>> On 10/30/2016 6:52 PM, dagnabit wrote:   
   >>>> gurdjieff's self remembering is the same as ramana maharshi's focus   
   >>>> on the "I thought" or nisargadatta maharaj's focus on the "I AM". any   
   >>>> extended focus on your sense of conscious presence will open up the   
   >>>> direct line of sight to your real nature eventually. oftentimes it takes   
   >>>> persistence and perseverance but anyone can do it.   
   >>>   
   >>>> As the delphic injunction proposes :  "Know thyself"   
   >>>   
   >>> but do you do it? knowing that you can know thyself,   
   >>> and many know that phrase, how many really do it?   
   >>   
   >>> It seems relatively rare to find one who does.   
   >>   
   >> and it's right there in everyone's face completely ignored for the most   
   >> part and focus is more comfortable with the   
   >> conditioned egoistic mental meandering loops of fears and desires rather   
   >> than the initializing genesis that allows that endless rut that most   
   >> cling to.   
   >   
   > Yes.  It's right there and completely invisible to most people,   
   > including me much of the time.   
   >   
   > Those conditioned attachments can so easily become part of one's pattern   
   > of living invisible to regular conscious awareness, and like all   
   > addictions can be so difficult to separate from.   
   >   
   >   
      
   The ones to watch out for are the unconditioned attachments, if you can let   
   go of those the rest have nothing to be hung upon, and if you can't they'll   
   draw conditioned attachments like flies to shit.  I think the most   
   unconditioned attachment is probably survival, but once you're hooked on   
   living you kinda have to get hooked on things like food and clothing, a   
   warm place to sleep, etc., and then the conveniences start and it's all   
   downhill.  And I'm not advocating anything approaching suicide here, I'm   
   saying that *attachments* are not the same as that which is attached to.   
   I'm quite content to be alive, but I think that I gave up being strongly   
   attached to survival a long time ago, in favor of being committed to more   
   important endeavor.   
      
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