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   > dagnabit wrote with uncertain certainty:   
   > > Wilson wrote in response to noname's paradigm:   
   > >>   
   > >> If something exists but is not manifest, where is it?   
   > >   
   > >if I understand correctly, everything exists either in manifestation   
   > >in relative physical reality or in potential as in what is called the   
   > >absolute. we only provide the correct conditions for things in   
   > >potential to become actualized in the physical.   
   >   
   > I'd just written something using some of the same words in   
   > a different thread which was the same by another name.   
   >   
   > Using an either/or paradigm how ever-is, it can be said, narrower.   
   > Using a both-and as welling as a neither-nor can be even m'ore than.   
   >   
   > >as an example, when you have all the pieces of a model airplane   
   > >there is a potential model there and you provide the actions   
   > >necessary for it to become an actual model.   
   >   
   > And the actual model, which was to be built, did not exist   
   > until it was actually built, no matter how much potential it had.   
   >   
   > Hence a quibble can may be neither with the model nor the building   
   > head-butt, rather, with the words being used to suggest a suggestion.   
   >   
   > >thinking that we can actually create anything may be backwards   
   > >thinking. anything that can be created Is already waiting in   
   > >potential form.   
   >   
   > To say, everything exists, potentially, in nonbeing,   
   > undifferentiated, awaiting to be differentiated by those   
   > who have a mind to give birth to some form of a slice of a whole   
   > carved out of what isn't there as in the beginning can be said.   
   >   
   > >bob dylan once said that he didn't think that he wrote any of   
   > >his songs, but that they were already out there somewhere in   
   > >the ether and he just somehow tuned into them.   
   >   
   > In the Chuang-tzu are many stories about a fine tune tuned in two.   
   >   
   > - as the wind cried and howled among the branches, merry   
      
   yet I'm still potentially un-potentialized   
   in that my potential could go in any   
   given potential direction. at any given   
   potential time.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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