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   From: tanghuyen@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/7/2016 5:36 PM, brian mitchell wrote:   
      
   > Not bound by social norms and standards, but free to adopt them. After   
   > all, living has to take *some* form. Most zen masters continued to   
   > adopt the monastic form.   
   >   
   > But there's still a question.   
   >   
   > One time, the Master rose from his chair in the dharma hall, lifted   
   > his robes, and began dancing, saying to the monks, 'Look! Look!'   
   > When the astonished monks stared at him dumbfounded the Master said,   
   > 'I am performing an action of the world without departing from the   
   > mind of Bodhi.'   
   > (the anecdote may be a bit mangled since it's from memory, but not   
   > horribly so)   
   >   
   > My question is: was the Master really dancing, the way young people   
   > dance in nightclubs, with intensity and absorbtion, with delight in   
   > the body and its allure? Or was he only imitating the outward form?   
      
   You profess to want to learn Daoism, right? Load   
   up on ZZ, and loosen up from your uptight Catholic   
   straitjacket. Just remember: mindfulness is "just   
   look, don't judge". Doesn't Jesus say something to   
   the effect not to judge? If you invoke Japanese Zen   
   masters of WW II, they were acting in raging mob   
   psychology, to the glory of the Emperor, and did not   
   show mindfulness. The sage, to me (and I am not   
   qualified to judge), acts or does-not-act ad hoc,   
   without intention, and slips out of social norms and   
   standards (like above). ZZ is packed choke-full with   
   such non-conformism. JayLo offers us a surfeit from   
   the menu on a daily basis.   
      
   Tang Huyen   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)