XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: absfg_wilson@yahoo.com   
      
   On 11/7/2016 3:58 PM, brian mitchell wrote:   
   > Wilson wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 11/6/2016 4:42 PM, Kitty P wrote:   
   >>> "noname"  wrote in message news:nvo0tp$neb$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Nobody in Particular  wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/6/2016 12:15 AM, noname wrote:   
   >>>>>> liaM  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/5/2016 8:54 PM, noname wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What I think is that You People don't recognize just how sexist Kitty's   
   >>>>>> comments about how "men don't understand" are.  Kitty is the most   
   blatantly   
   >>>>>> sexist individual posting in these groups.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> As for whatever you think is "for your own good", you seem to think you   
   >>>>>> have some special secret to impart but you apparently lack the   
   >>>>>> forthrightness to say what it is.  To me that screams "bullshit", it   
   says   
   >>>>>> you're hiding behind your egocentric paternalism and attempting to   
   assume   
   >>>>>> an aspect of superiority to make the magnifying glass go away. Bring it   
   >>>>>> out and put it on the table, or admit that you shot your mouth off about   
   >>>>>> nothing just to make yourself feel better.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Why do you try so very hard to be offended?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Is there something in that for me?  What's my cut?  I'm not seeing it as   
   >>>> having any benefit whatsoever. Why do you think I try to be offended?   
   >>>> Because people who theoretically are interested in "mental culture" show   
   >>>> themselves to be dilettantes?  That's a personal issue, they can pretend   
   >>>> whatever they want and put it over on themselves, not my problem.  On the   
   >>>> other hand, those genuinely involved in the subject might wish to be   
   >>>> reminded that they've forgotten.  Do You People have a list of the   
   >>>> serious   
   >>>> and the list of those who are present merely to think well of   
   >>>> themselves by   
   >>>> association?  I missed that memo, please do forward it.   
   >>>   
   >>>> email: noname.1234567.abcdef@gmail.com   
   >>>   
   >>> Hello wall.   
   >>   
   >> According to widely accepted contemporary correct-thinking dogma it's   
   >> all but impossible for a woman to be sexist when she generalizes about   
   >> men.   
   >>   
   >> That's because, according to this mythology, men are generally   
   >> reprobates.  Anything you say about them is probably true.  And even if   
   >> it's not true specifically, it almost certainly is overall.  So it's   
   >> okay to say things about men that if they were said about women would   
   >> get one thrown into a metaphorical feminist gulag.   
   >>   
   >> The idea that Kitty saying, "That is the mistake that men make all the   
   >> time" might be a little bit sexist is simply flying over the heads of   
   >> Kitty and NiP.   
   >>   
   >> They can't believe it's even a little bit off kilter for a woman to   
   >> generalize like that.   
   >>   
   >> That's the world they have built around themselves.   
   >   
   > I wouldn't say that generalisation and sexism --or any kind of -ism--   
   > are one and the same; it would depend on what the generalisation   
   > stated. We are creatures of culture, and culture IS general. A   
   > generalisation is not wrong simply by virtue of being a   
   > generalisation. Many attitudes towards women are shared by very many   
   > men around the world. No doubt the same can be said of attitudes   
   > towards men on the part of women.   
   >   
   > Sexism is the denigration and devaluing of either men or women purely   
   > on the basis of the fact that they are men or women. It goes without   
   > saying that if a man denigrates women, there is an inherent assumption   
   > that the male sex as a whole is superior, and vice versa. However,   
   > pointing out a cultural trait is not in itself denigratory, though   
   > it's likely to be thought so if one is highly identified with that   
   > particular trait.   
   >   
   > Centuries of patriarchal culture have embedded certain attitudes   
   > within males in general at an almost genetic level. For any man to   
   > think he is entirely free of such bias is itself an indication of the   
   > presence of sexist bias. Same for racism and any other kind of   
   > cultural chauvinism.   
      
   Oh bullshit.   
      
   If a person states generalized assumptions about an entire group of   
   people, saying ALL of them are a certain way, that is bigotry.   
      
   It's also not true.   
      
   People are individuals.   
      
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