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   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   brian wrote:   
      
   > ... ... ...  in   
   >mindfulness, is there a watcher and a watched?   
      
   As far as I understand the technique, yes.   
   One observes, detached.   
      
   Witness-consciousness is invoked for a spell.   
      
   From being all too involved and all too emotional,   
   one is able to simmer-down, as it were.   
      
   >To be unobstructed,   
   >must not awareness be fully participatory?   
      
   When Cook Ting got to a place in the bull where he slowed,   
   his attention became as narrow as the edge of his blade,   
   which, having no thickness, was able to slice thru with ease.   
      
   Then, when the ox fell apart, he smiled.   
   From being fully involved he was fully evolved.   
      
   With plenty of emptiness and room to spare, the Sage   
   never need leave a room to know how things are and go.   
      
   In a cave, call it the xin, or heart-mind, one may be without   
   concern for watching watches tick and talk nonsense.   
      
   There being nothing to it, one is free to roam within   
   all the room there is in the universe and beyond all forms   
   of consciousness, mind, and such gordian knots.   
      
   Forgetting to forget, one remembers and stumbles.   
      
   Having completely forgotten, one may then return.   
      
   Xin-zhai can be a technique.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)