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   From: absfg_wilson@yahoo.com   
      
   On 11/7/2016 7:39 PM, Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >   
   > As I have written lots of time, the regimen of   
   > survival and the regimen of grace are unrelated.   
   > If one is concerned with survival, grace won't   
   > come. It comes when one does nothing,   
   > including for survival.   
      
   You have that backwards.   
      
   Grace is not amenable to what we do or don't do.  It is beyond being the   
   effect of our desires.  It either comes or it does not.   
      
   That's what makes it Grace.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)