XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   Tang wrote:   
   > Lee Dillion wrote:   
   >   
   >> It would seem that, over the years, you have attempted   
   >> to explain "pure reason, in the strict Kantian sense"   
   >> and how it relates to Buddhism and Stoicism.  Being the   
   >> dullards that we are, you should try some more.   
   >   
   >I admit that I talk about it without explaining it,   
   >without even giving the gist of it, even when   
   >Brian poked me on it, so I have been cheap and   
   >reticent. On the Daoist board, pi and JayLo   
   >(perhaps also noname, though I am not sure   
   >about him) talk constantly about paradigms,   
   >paradigmatic forms, and paradigm shifts, along   
   >with axioms and all that good stuff, but they,   
   >whether they are scholars or not, are plainly   
   >groping in the dark, just like the white scholars   
   >in the humanities.   
      
   When someone is blind, to say what others are doing   
   might be to speak of that which one does not know.   
      
   >It is just like in mental culture, as JayLo keeps   
   >saying, what is instantly seen by the (supposed)   
   >awakeneds is very hard for the non-awakened   
   >to have any glimmer of, even intellectually.   
      
   And yet, a non-awakened, such as Tang, may say   
   what the white scholars and others are doing.   
      
   There's a saying that says something about that.   
      
   >So   
   >the stuff from LZ and ZZ that JayLo quotes   
   >profusely is packed choke-full with all the above   
   >good stuff, which is what forms and structures it   
   >wall to wall, yet the quoter himself (to me)   
   >scarcely has any idea about the axiomatic or   
   >paradigmatic form of what he quotes (though I   
   >am very grateful for his meaty and fascinating   
   >quotes, as I have hardly the time and resource   
   >to explore the authors quoted, and in very   
   >interesting cases, I can look up the Chinese).   
      
   Taoism rings bells in my mind and I chime in at times.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)