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   From: invalid@invalid.invalid   
      
   Ned Ludd wrote:   
   >   
   > "brian mitchell" wrote in message   
   > news:jmcp2clmg8vk7cd3c06hpf0neb3024evqs@4ax.com...   
   >> Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 11/16/2016 8:45 AM, Lee Dillion wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> It would seem that, over the years, you have attempted   
   >>>> to explain "pure reason, in the strict Kantian sense"   
   >>>> and how it relates to Buddhism and Stoicism. Being the   
   >>>> dullards that we are, you should try some more.   
   >>>   
   >>> I admit that I talk about it without explaining it,   
   >>> without even giving the gist of it, even when   
   >>> Brian poked me on it, so I have been cheap and   
   >>> reticent. On the Daoist board, pi and JayLo   
   >>> (perhaps also noname, though I am not sure   
   >>> about him) talk constantly about paradigms,   
   >>> paradigmatic forms, and paradigm shifts, along   
   >>> with axioms and all that good stuff, but they,   
   >>> whether they are scholars or not, are plainly   
   >>> groping in the dark, just like the white scholars   
   >>> in the humanities.   
   >>>   
   >>> It is just like in mental culture, as JayLo keeps   
   >>> saying, what is instantly seen by the (supposed)   
   >>> awakeneds is very hard for the non-awakened   
   >>> to have any glimmer of, even intellectually. So   
   >>> the stuff from LZ and ZZ that JayLo quotes   
   >>> profusely is packed choke-full with all the above   
   >>> good stuff, which is what forms and structures it   
   >>> wall to wall, yet the quoter himself (to me)   
   >>> scarcely has any idea about the axiomatic or   
   >>> paradigmatic form of what he quotes (though I   
   >>> am very grateful for his meaty and fascinating   
   >>> quotes, as I have hardly the time and resource   
   >>> to explore the authors quoted, and in very   
   >>> interesting cases, I can look up the Chinese).   
   >>> The axiomatic and paradigmatic forms just jump   
   >>> out of the screen and stare at me blankly, as if   
   >>> telling me, hey, what are you doing here.   
   >>>   
   >>> So I apologise for being cheap and reticent,   
   >>> but am going to keep being so until I get my   
   >>> book published, which may be a pipe dream.   
   >>>   
   >>> Just to whet your appetite further (see how a   
   >>> sadist I am), I quote Bertrand Russell about   
   >>> "structure" in a book published in 1927, The   
   >>> Analysis of Mind: we can "infer a great deal as   
   >>> to the structure of the physical world, but not   
   >>> as to its intrinsic character," "Whatever we infer   
   >>> from perceptions it is only structure that we can   
   >>> validly infer; and structure is what can be   
   >>> expressed by mathematical logic," and "The   
   >>> only legitimate attitude about the physical   
   >>> world seems to be one of complete agnosticism   
   >>> as regards all but its mathematical properties."   
   >>> Respectively pages 400, 254, 270. Take what he   
   >>> says about the physical world and apply it to   
   >>> the mental realm of philosophy, and you have   
   >>> what Kant calls pure reason, though Kant   
   >>> himself is lost about pinning down what would   
   >>> qualify. (This wonderful book is not available on   
   >>> the Internet; it should be the pillow book for   
   >>> researchers in pure reason).   
   >>   
   >> If worse should ever come to the worst and your own book   
   >> doesn't reach its full public destiny, I hope you'll be kind to   
   >> posterity and at least reveal the secret with your last expiring   
   >> breath...   
   >>   
   >> "Rosebud"   
   >>   
   >   
   > I hope it's a graphic novel.   
      
   Is that secret code for "a comic book"?   
      
   > Very graphic.   
      
   Or maybe you're looking for porn.   
      
   >   
   > Ned   
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   The Ned Ludd translation of the TTC, are you the same Ned Ludd who   
   translated it? Did you work from the original chinese?   
      
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