XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   brian gave an example and thought:   
      
   >You and I are walking along a street, reasonably amicably, when I   
   >suddenly ask in a loud and urgent voice: "What's that on the wall?"   
   >   
   >When you hear the question you are immediately alerted to the fact   
   >that there is something, but something unknown, without form, so your   
   >attention is collected but has no object. Naturally, you turn to look   
   >for the object, to bring the unknown into the known, but while you are   
   >turning to look, with collected but empty attention, there is   
   >Don't-Know mind.   
   >   
   >If, under the right conditions, instead of asking about an exterior   
   >object, someone were to ask you with sufficient force: "What is the   
   >mind?" and you turned collected but empty attention back onto itself   
   >to look...   
   >   
   >That would be interesting.   
      
   One time there were these two guys walking along   
   when, suddenly, and without notice, one guy says, Hey!   
   Let's go walk into that bar over there.   
      
   And so, without any thought, they both did.   
      
   The bar didn't mind, nor did it budge.   
      
   It doesn't work as well to say,   
   let's go smash our heads against a wall, however.   
      
   Under the right conditions, the best part is stopping.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)