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   "Tang Huyen"  wrote in message   
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   > On 11/20/2016 12:02 PM, dagnabit wrote:   
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   > > nisargadatta maharaj once said that if you are honest with   
   > > yourself, self realization is easy, but if you're not, it is   
   > > impossible.   
   >   
   > It is hard for me to see deed (karman) and result of   
   > it across lifetimes, or even in one life, except for   
   > self-deception in one life. That one is deadly and   
   > unforgiving. You can run but you cannot hide.   
   > Contrariwise, if you are open and honest to yourself,   
   > you have already resolved half of your suffering, and   
   > the rest can be born in patience and fortitude.   
   >   
   > Tang Huyen   
      
   when there is strong identification with the classical   
   ideas of reincarnation and karma, an effective and   
   efficient spiritual debriefing becomes more daunting.   
   without a successful debriefing, as such, these veiling   
   concepts help to cloud a clarity of focus and subsequent   
   conclusions formed when veiled.   
      
   simply entertain the notion that what you are under the   
   human disguise is immune to any type of processes such   
   as karma or reincarnation. unresolved desire energies force   
   a return of themselves only to form, but you are not these   
   energies. personality is the pivot by which processing energies   
   can appear as one's identity, and as such brings it into a field   
   of endeavor in which it is under the influence and effects of   
   these slippery energies. identification with the energies as   
   identity supplies its own reinforcement of looping program   
   mentation since what you truly are cannot be grasped or   
   understood, so it appears that you are the body/mind   
   and the real you goes pretty much unnoticed.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)