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   From: wudao@wuji.net   
      
   dagnabit wrote:   
      
   >nisargadatta maharaj once said that if you are honest with   
   >yourself, self realization is easy, but if you're not, it is   
   >impossible.   
      
   I wonder exactly what he meant by the word, self.   
      
   < begin quote of a Gita >   
      
   Arjuna saw the entire universe, divided in many ways, but standing as   
   (all in) One (and One in all) in the body of Krishna, the God of gods.   
   (11.13)   
      
   Then Arjuna, filled with wonder and his hairs standing on end, bowed   
   his head to the Lord and prayed with folded hands. (11.14)   
      
   Arjuna said: O Lord, I see in Your body all the gods and multitude of   
   beings, all sages, celestial serpents, Lord Shiva as well as Lord   
   Brahmaa seated on the lotus. (11.15)   
      
   O Lord of the universe, I see You everywhere with infinite form, with   
   many arms, stomachs, faces, and eyes. Neither do I see the beginning   
   nor the middle nor the end of Your Universal Form. (11.16)   
      
   I see You with Your crown, club, discus; and a mass of radiance,   
   difficult to behold, shining all around with immeasurable brilliance   
   of the sun and the blazing fire. (11.17)   
      
   I believe You are the imperishable, the Supreme to be realized. You   
   are the ultimate resort of the universe. You are the protector of   
   eternal Dharma, and the imperishable primal spirit. (11.18)   
      
   I see You with infinite power, without beginning, middle, or end; with   
   many arms, with the sun and the moon as Your eyes, with Your mouth as   
   a blazing fire whose radiance is scorching all the universe. (11.19)   
      
   The entire space between heaven and earth is pervaded by You alone in   
   all directions. ...   
      
   < end quote >   
      
   The forms of the Form vary.   
   As dew the structures of the Structure.   
      
   - dissolving and resolving   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)