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   From: invalid@invalid.invalid   
      
   Tang Huyen  wrote:   
   > On 11/23/2016 12:24 PM, Ned Ludd wrote:   
   >   
   >> Why don't you allow intentional mistakes? If I understand   
   >> the process of creativity correctly, it is essentially the   
   >> making of controlled 'mistakes' and then following the ones   
   >> that appear promising or interesting.   
   >>   
   >> [snip]   
   >>   
   >> This is fundamentally misguided, imo.  Mistakes can be   
   >> our friends.  They can reveal all kinds of hidden areas in   
   >> our brains, and other dark, lurking ideas and biases in   
   >> our psyche.   
   >   
   > It is true that intentional mistakes can lead out of the box   
   > and to discovery of something new. However, because   
   > they are intentional, they are still framed by the box and   
   > scarcely venture on the wild side. They scarcely lead   
   > their owners astray in a positive manner, as in   
   > serendipity.   
   >   
   > The true discoveries are neither intentional mistakes, nor   
   > even intentional, but come from right off out of the box,   
   > insofar as humanly possible. It does not mean that they   
   > are instantaneous, for they can take some time to grow,   
   > but that they are not premeditated, not framed. Often,   
   > they are so unusual and unorthodox that their owners can   
   > balk and reject them off hand as "crazy" or "mad". This   
   > rejection can be so strong that their owners can well   
   > forget them, which is somewhat similar to repression. But   
   > if their owners are open-minded enough, they can be   
   > harboured and nurtured, even if they take time to mature.   
   > In such cases, they are really inspirations, or even   
   > epiphanies.   
   >   
   > Inspiration means "an idea (or whatever) being blown into   
   > somebody's mind". The more unintentional and motiveless,   
   > the better. They must dawn on their owners, unawares, as   
   > if God (or whatever) deigns to condescend to slip a note   
   > into the recipient's mind, for free (gratuitously) and   
   > unbidden.   
   >   
   > Just like my Ninja stars. But since I am a robot, I am not   
   > responsible for my Ninja stars, given that I am a cardboard   
   > cutout which has no space for even a pin of moral sense to   
   > slip in. They are cast, but impersonally and unintentionally,   
   > as if by pure chance or utter random, without ulterior   
   > motive/motiv. Boom, just like that. The trick is to make   
   > their recipients feel them to be natural, at home, as if they   
   > knew them all along, without knowing them. The "on the tip   
   > of the tongue" phenomenon, but in reverse.   
   >   
   > Solly for the rong rant. It was stronger than I. Happy   
   > Thanksgiving to Merkins.   
   >   
   > Tang Huyen   
   >   
      
   You've brought up the word "inspiration", which is a word to think about   
   imo.  And in the same post you're talking about things coming into play   
   "from right off out of the box" as you put it, from "outside" of the   
   individual, or at least from outside the mental box the individual has   
   constructed for his or her comfort.  In the same conversation, Ned is   
   pointing at how "mistakes" can be our friends.  You mentioned how such   
   things are cast "as if by pure chance or utter random".   
      
   These are not strange things happening that only you and Ned have touched   
   upon, they are part and parcel of my daily existence.  They are neither   
   occasional nor random imo, they are effects caused by the way the world   
   works.  Seeing them for what they are is imo a very large part of the   
   awakening experience, in fact it could be that "awakening" is the adoption   
   of a foreground/background reversal as one's new "default" orientation, a   
   sort of turning the sock of your mind inside out so the seams don't rub   
   your foot raw, so to speak.   
      
   More likely there are simply thoughts one can think, and ways we can think   
   them, that are mirrored by the remainder of the universe in order to keep   
   things in balance, particle by particle, as the quanta are arranged into   
   manifestation.   
      
   Perhaps late this afternoon, while considering whether you've survived a   
   feast or doomed yourself to puking up your pumpkin pie, thinking about this   
   will give you something to distract yourself with... just relax and be   
   serene and let it all flow...    
      
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