XPost: alt.messianic, alt.bible   
   From: a202010@lycos.com   
      
   and then, you see Jesus saying this;   
      
      
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   John 9:40-41   
      
   Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him   
   heard these words, and said to Him, "“Are we blind also?” "   
   Jesus said to them, “"If you were blind, you would   
   have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.’   
   Therefore your sin remains."   
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   see, Jesus suggests, -as does- the Law   
      
   that you can be 'blind' and therefore,   
   not fully accountable for your actions   
   a diminished capacity defense for adults   
      
   but anyway, these other characters say that they =see=   
   and yet, -their- sin remains, and -then- you start wondering   
   if their sin is "intentional" for which, forgiveness may not   
   be so easy inasmuch as they have held YHWH up to scorn.   
      
   the entire enterprise goes to great lengths to elicit   
   the proper response which is to turn correctly towards   
   God and see Holiness and be blameless.   
      
   This Law is -already- a "Grace" and -not- 'license'   
   as we see that the children of Israel become sickened   
     when they seem to -treat- it as a license.   
      
   much the same way as "many become sick" when they take   
   the communion without having properly inspected themselves...   
      
   it's just that people fail to -see- It, Grace,   
      
   in the Law because of the 'veil' worn by Moses.   
      
   albeit, we recognize that the blood of bulls   
   and goats can never cleanse the conscience   
   of unrighteousness in the manner which   
   Christ's own Holy Wine, can.   
      
   but, also, that the blood of bulls and goats   
   was a shadow and a temporary entitlement for   
   the peculiar people of Israel, and that, at least,   
      
   apparently, God has a Way and an Image   
      
   that is not to be trifled with....   
      
   but someone can read to you and you can   
   agree to its genuine Good and blameless holiness   
   and still, fall short of a thorough understanding   
   and ...transgress YHWH's imperative.   
      
   you wonder who -would- transgress   
   on purpose with full knowledge...   
   but apparently, it's possible...   
      
   and then, getting busted up side   
   the head is a merciful end,   
      
   because they'd be in conflict with Life itself.   
      
      
   it definitely deserves   
   more than just a casual glance...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)