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|    Weedy to All    |
|    Peter follows, John remains    |
|    24 May 20 22:44:59    |
      From: richarra@gmail.com              Peter follows, John remains               "The Lord either said what he said to Peter about his martyrdom,       or he said it about the gospel of John. As regards the martyrdom and       this 'Follow me,' [he means] suffer for me, suffer what I did. Because       Christ was crucified, Peter too was crucified... while John       experienced none of this. That is what is meant by, 'It is thus that I       wish him to remain.' Let him fall asleep without wounds, without       torment, and wait for me. You, Peter, 'Follow me,' suffer what I did.       That’s one way these words can be explained...        "As regards the Gospel of John, though, this is what I think is       meant: that Peter wrote about the Lord, others too wrote; but their       writing was more concerned with the Lord’s humanity... But while there       is something about the divinity of Christ in Peter's letters, in       John's gospel it is very much to the fore... He soared above the       clouds and soared above the stars, soared above the angels, soared       above every creature and arrived at the Word through which all things       were made."       -- by Augustine of Hippo.(excerpt from Sermon 253.5.5)              <<>><<>><<>>       May 25th - Pope St. Gregory VII       (1020? – 1085 A.D.)              St. Gregory VII, often referred to by his baptismal name Hildebrand,       was one of the great reformers of the Middle Ages.              Born in Tuscany, this talented youth was sent to Rome to be educated       under the supervision of his priest-uncle. In 1045, John Gratian, one       of Hildebrand’s professors at the Lateran school, was elected pope,       and chose him as his secretary. John (Gregory VI) resigned the papacy       after a year. His former secretary, glad to unshoulder administrative       labors, became a monk. But he did not long enjoy the peace of the       monastery, for in 1049 the newly elected Pope St. Leo IX called him       back to serve as his business manager. The next four popes renewed the       appointment. Willy-nilly, Hildebrand was stuck in administration.       Indeed, he became the power behind the papal throne.              When Pope Alexander II died in 1073, Hildebrand, because of his worth       and experience, was the obvious choice to succeed him. He accepted,       taking the name Gregory VII, but he did so with trepidation. The       Church in Europe was then at low ebb. The clergy widely ignored the       rule of celibacy, and simony (the “sale” of church positions) was       rampant. Gregory quickly enacted new laws and enforced old ones       intended to suppress such abuses. But it was necessary also that he       chop out the root of these evils, namely, the pretense of civil rulers       that they had a right to appoint bishops and other church officials.              As long as political features exerted that control, their appointees       were liable to be unworthy, self-seeking men. Consequently, in 1075,       Gregory issued a decree forbidding any rulers to invest clerics in       church office.              Of course, the European rulers reacted violently to the decree. The       loudest to protest was Henry IV, the young, canny and avaricious Holy       Roman Emperor. He answered the pope by stirring up anti-papal clerics       and laymen against him. These staged a revolt in Rome at midnight Mass       on Christmas 1075, seized Gregory, and held him prisoner for several       hours. Henry then announced that he intended to oust the pope in favor       of a bishop of his own choosing.              But Henry had gone too far. When Gregory excommunicated him, releasing       his subjects from their feudal oaths of allegiance, the German nobles       threatened the emperor with deposition if he had not made peace with       Gregory before February 1076. Now, Henry had a keen sense of public       reactions. Taking the initiative, he crossed the Alps in midwinter       with his empress and child and only one servant, and sought out the       pope, who was visiting at Canossa in northern Italy. Dressed in       penitential garb, he stood before the castle of Canossa for three cold       days, begging Gregory to absolve him. The pope, with good reason,       doubted the emperor’s sincerity, but finally had to grant his       petition. It was a melodramatic episode in human history.              The German nobles nevertheless deposed Henry in 1077, and elected in       his place Rudolph of Swabia. However, when Rudolph died two years       later, Henry renewed his revolt against the pope, naming a pope of his       own, Guibert of Revenna. Gregory re-imposed the excommunication,       whereupon Henry led his army against Rome and after a siege of three       years, occupied it. The pope sought refuge in Castel Sant’Angelo,       until his rescue by the forces of Robert Guiscard, the Norman Duke of       Calabria. But Guiscard’s troops so misbehaved that the Romans drove       them out as well, and the pope, for safety’s sake, had to go back with       the Normans to southern Italy. Thirteen of his cardinals now rebelled       against him. The pontiff, failing in health of late, died at Salerno,       near Naples. In his last moments, he said (adapting Psalm 44) “I have       loved righteousness and hated iniquity; that is why I die in exile.”       This strong but generous pope had already forgiven his enemies and       lifted the excommunications of all but the impenitent Henry and his       antipope.              St. Gregory, in a turbulent era, had envisioned a purified Church, and       worked all his priestly life to achieve it. He died before his vision       became a reality, but the movement for reform that he launched       eventually succeeded.              –Father Robert                     Saint Quote:       Can the life of a good Christian be anything other than that of a man       nailed to the Cross with Jesus Christ?       -- Saint John Vianney              Bible Quote:       Wonder not at this: for the hour cometh wherein all that are in the       graves shall hear the voice of the Son of God. And they that have done       good things shall come forth unto the resurrection of life: but they       that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment. [John 5:28,29       ] DRB                     <><><><>       A short invocation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, from the Roman Breviary:              We fly to thy patronage, O holy Mother of God; despise not thou our       petitions in our necessities, but deliver us always from all dangers,       O glorious and blessed Virgin.              <><><><>       O God, our refuge and our strength, mercifully regard Thy       people who cry to Thee, and turn away the scourges of Thy       anger, which we justly deserve for our sins. Through Christ       our Lord. Amen.               --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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