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      From: richarra@gmail.com              How we should not Believe all we Hear [I]              THE DISCIPLE.        Lord, help me in my trouble, for vain is the help of man.(Ps. 60:11)       How often have I found no loyalty where I expected to find it! And how       often have I found it where I least expected! It is useless to place       our hope in man; salvation is to be found in Thee alone, O       God.(Ps.37:39) In all that befalls us, we bless Thee, O Lord our God.       --Thomas à Kempis --Imitation of Christ Bk 3 Ch 45              <<>><<>><<>>       September 16th - St. Cyprian, Martyr              Cyprian was born Caecillus Cyprianus about the year 200, probably at       Carthage and was known among his friends as "Thascius." He was from a       well-to-do family and had the best education Carthage could offer. As       a lawyer, orator and teacher of rhetoric, he apparently led a very       active public and social life until middle age when he met an old       priest named Caecilian.              With his conversion, Cyprian's outlook changed dramatically. After his       baptism he took a vow of celibacy which so amazed those who knew him       that his biographer, St. Pontus is said to have remarked that no one       had ever seen such a miracle. Cyprian studied the Scriptures       diligently, was ordained to the priesthood and in 248, against his       wishes, was consecrated bishop of Carthage, which gained him a few       clerical enemies.              Cyprian enjoyed peace in his diocese until a renewed outbreak of       persecution began under Decius. Forced into hiding, Cyprian continued       to lead his people by letter. Upon his return, Cyprian found that one       of the priests who had opposed him, Novatus, had set himself up in       schism against Cyprian and was receiving all those who had lapsed into       apostasy back, without penance, into full reception of the sacraments.       It was this situation which led Cyprian to write his now famous "De       lapsis," which set down guidelines for receiving back into full       communion with the universal church, those who had denied their faith.              Novatus and his group continued in schism, which brought more       confusion and hardship to the Church of Carthage. There were those who       questioned the validity of the baptisms performed by those who were in       schism with the universal Church. Cyprian, along with many of the       Oriental clergy, refused to accept the validity of heretical baptisms.       This issue would remain unresolved during his lifetime.              Cyprian's troubles were by no means at an end. In 257 with the       outbreak of the Valerian persecution, he was exiled to Curubis and a       year later was recalled to Carthage where he was again tried because       he was a Christian and condemned to death. Cyprian was martyred at       Carthage on September 14, 258.              Cyprian's writings are his greatest legacy to us. His "De Ecclesiae       Catholicae Unitate," emphasizes the need for unity under one head, the       Bishop of Rome. "Ad Demetrianum" vigorously defended the Christian       faith against pagan accusations and false beliefs. The majority of his       writings are directed to his people, teaching them the truths of their       faith and encouraging them in the face of persecution and martyrdom.       His writings give us a good sense of the Church not only in Africa,       but also in Rome, Gaul and Spain.              We see in his writings that Cyprian was a man of deep faith totally       committed to God and the shepherding of His people. We might say that       Cyprian was wrong in his strongly held belief about baptism and his       opposition to Pope Stephen in this regard. But, as St. Augustine       pointed out, this was most likely due to an innocent, but incomplete       understanding of the complexity of sacramental benefits, which was a       common misunderstanding of his day. One has to remember that in       Cyprian's day Rome was still in a process of development, and the       position of the bishop of Rome on every issue was still not settled.       Despite his position on baptism, Cyprian strongly supported the pope       and would never have considered deposing him because of their opposing       views. In actuality it is most likely that Cyprian was not even aware       that his position on baptism was undermining the very unity that he       was fighting for.              His was one of the few feasts of the earliest Martyrology calendar and       his name is included among the martyrs named in the canon of the Mass.       His writings have been a powerful tool of exegesis down through the       ages and are only outnumbered by a few others such as Basil, Gregory       and the other great Doctors of the Church.              Saint Quote:       "It is written, 'God is not mocked.' (Gal. vi, 7.) Indeed God cannot       be mocked, nor circumvented, nor deluded by any man's astute deceit. .       . Let each of you, then, I beg you, brethren, confess his fault while       the sinner is yet in this world, while confession is still possible,       while the satisfaction and remission granted by the priests is still       acceptable to God."       --St. Cyprian              Bible Quote:       Do not set your mind on high things, but condescend to the lowly. (Rom.       12:16)                     <><><><><>       A chapter from St. Cyprian's 'The Unity of the Catholic       Church' (AD 250):              [speaking of those that break with the Church such as Novatus       and Novatian, just as Core, Dathan, Abiron and Ozias of the       Old Testament broke the Law, and thus acted against the       Godhead]              These, certainly, they imitate and follow, who despise God's       tradition and seek after strange doctrines and introduce       teachings of human disposition. These the Lord rebukes and       reproves in His Gospel when He says: 'You reject the       commandment of God that you may establish your own       tradition.' This crime is worse than that which the lapsed seem       to have committed, who while established in penance for their       crime beseech God with full satisfactions. Here the Church is       sought and entreated, there the Church is resisted; here there       can have been necessity, there the will is held in wickedness;       here he who lapsed harmed only himself, there he who tried to       cause a heresy or schism deceived many by dragging them with       him; here there is the loss of one soul, there danger to a great       many. Certainly this one knows that he has sinned and bewails       and laments; that one swelling in his sin and taking pleasure in       his very crimes separates children from their Mother, entices       sheep from their shepherd, and disturbs the sacraments of God.       And whereas the lapsed has sinned once, the former sins daily.       Finally, the lapsed later, after achieving martyrdom, can       receive the promises of the kingdom; the former, if he is killed       outside the Church, cannot arrive at the rewards of the Church.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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