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   Georg Tillerman to All   
   Re: New Leaves   
   08 Jul 23 06:39:55   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.messianic, alt.religion.christian   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife   
   From: tiller@soil.org.9   
      
   I just thought i'd add these here as exemplars;   
      
   ==   
   Jeremiah 1:6-7   
      
   Then said I: “Ah, Lord God! Behold, I cannot speak, for I am a youth.”   
   But Jesus said to me: “Do not say, ‘I am a youth,’ For you shall go   
   to all to whom I send you, And whatever I command you, you shall speak.   
   ==   
   Job 32:6-9   
      
   So Elihu, the son of Barachel the Buzite, answered and said:   
      
   “I am young in years, and you are very old; Therefore I was afraid, And   
   dared not declare my opinion to you. I said, ‘Age should speak, And   
   multitude of years should teach wisdom.’ But there is a spirit in man,   
   And the breath of the Almighty gives him understanding.   
   Men of many years are not always wise, Nor do the aged   
   always understand justice.   
   ==   
   1 Timothy 4:12   
      
   Let no one despise your youth, but be an example to the believers   
   in word, in conduct, in love, in spirit, in faith, in purity.   
   ==   
      
   you -should- think that 'wisdom' would come with Age   
      
   but all to often, men wander -away- from the peaceable wisdom   
   that comes from above, and over in to that earthly, sensual,    DEMONIC.   
   Cynical Pragmatism like what we see below;   
      
      
   ====   
   James 3:14-16    [Cynical Pragmatism]   
      
   But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts,   
   do not boast and lie against the truth. This wisdom does not   
   descend from above, but is earthly, sensual,    DEMONIC. <===   
   For where envy and self-seeking exist,   
   confusion and every evil thing are there.   
      
   James 3:17-18    [Manifold Wisdom of God]   
      
   But the wisdom that is from above is first pure,   
   then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy   
   and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.   
   18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace   
   by those who make peace.   
   ====   
      
   this, and that we -do- want to "hear from Jesus"  who much like Elihu;   
      
   ==   
   Job 33:4-7 [Elihu the youth, again]   
      
   The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life.   
     If you can answer me, Set your words in order before me; Take your stand.   
     Truly I am as your spokesman before God; I also have been formed out   
   of clay.   
   Surely no fear of me will terrify you, Nor will my hand be heavy on you.   
   ==   
      
   and this isn't a matter of "Age" as such things   
   called /wisdom/ may show themselves  But,   
      
   God -can- get a message thru , even through little clay monsters...   
      
   does this mean that children and young adults always speak the truth?   
   of course not, they're =infected= with the disease of man as well.   
      
   it's more to the point that just because someone has seen years   
      
   Alone, does Not cure the disease,   
      
   but Jesus Christ ,  THE Apostle of God ,   
      
   brings about the desired result.   
      
   and oftentimes, the young have less noise as an encumbrance   
   and God can actually find an entry point in to that hard head.   
      
   so, TODAY, if you should hear His Voice;   
      
   LISTEN   
      
      
   i did, ...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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