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   Message 30,038 of 30,222   
   Georg Tillerman to All   
   Re: New Leaves   
   09 Jul 23 11:02:04   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.messianic, alt.religion.christian   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife   
   From: tiller@soil.org.9   
      
   one little thing, it could be suggested that the trees   
   planted by YHWH in the garden were pleasing to the eye,   
   and/OR good for food,   
      
   but, seeing that this tree was -not- "good for food"   
   somewhat disqualifies it as having been placed by YHWH.   
      
   it's possible some trees were 'pleasing to the eye'   
   but had no real 'food value' -but- these 'trees'   
   -are- denoted as somewhat 'figurative' in another place.   
      
   ===   
   Ezekiel 31   
   <...>   
   Whom are you like in your greatness?   
   Indeed Assyria was a cedar in Lebanon,   
   With fine branches that shaded the forest,   
   And of high stature;   
   And its top was among the thick boughs.   
      The waters made it grow;   
   Underground waters gave it height,   
   With their rivers running around the place where it was planted,   
   And sent out rivulets to all the trees of the field.   
   <...>   
   No tree in the garden of God was like it in beauty.   
      I made it beautiful with a multitude of branches,   
   So that all the trees of Eden envied it,   
   That were in the garden of God.   
   <...>   
   To which of the trees in Eden will you then be likened   
   in glory and greatness? Yet you shall be brought down with   
   the trees of Eden to the depths of the earth; you shall lie   
      in the midst of the uncircumcised, with those slain by   
   the sword. This is Pharaoh and all his multitude,\92   
   says YHWH God.   
   ===   
      
      
   the main emphasis here, by me, is that it speaks   
   of "trees in the garden" as if they were people   
   or peoploids at least.   
      
   so, one can see how, a "tree" in the garden,   
   may come with it's own little 'ideology'   
   inasmuch as such a "tree" seems to   
   have these peoploid qualities.   
      
   and, as we see  in another place...   
   speaking of "chokma" or "wisdom"   
      
   ==   
   Proverbs 3:17-19   
      
   Her ways are ways of pleasantness, And all her paths are peace.   
   She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her, And happy   
   are all who retain her.   
      
   YHWH , by wisdom founded the earth; By understanding   
      
   established the heavens;   
   ==   
      
   ==   
   Proverbs 11:29-31   
      
   He who troubles his own house will inherit the wind,   
   And the fool will be servant to the wise of heart.   
      
   The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life,   
   And he who wins hearts is wise.   
   If the righteous will be recompensed on the earth,   
   How much more the ungodly and the sinner.   
   ==   
      
   ==   
   Proverbs 15:3-5   
      
      The eyes of YHWH are in every place,   
   Keeping watch on the evil and the good.   
      
      A wholesome tongue is a tree of life,   
      
   But perverseness in it breaks the spirit.   
      A fool despises his father's instruction,   
   But he who receives correction is prudent.   
   ==   
      
   see, THE "Tree of Life"   
      
   would not ever be considered "unwholesome for food"   
   but, this other tree is not deemed "good for food"   
      
   and we can begin to see what sort of attributes this 'tree'   
   which is not good for food, may impart on the partaker.   
      
   and one tiny little detail;   
      
   ==   
   Mark 16:17-19   
      
   And these signs shall follow them that believe;   
   In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall   
   speak with new tongues;   
      
   They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing,   
   it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick,   
   and they shall recover.   
      
   So then after the Lord had spoken unto them,   
   he was received up into heaven, and sat on   
   the right hand of God.   
   ==   
      
   suggesting that YHWH and Jesus cannot be poisoned by this "bad medicine"   
   and, should we ever mature, -we- would be immune to such "bad medicine"   
   as is the fruit of this 'other tree' which was -called- "poisonous"   
   inasmuch as it is not only not good for food, but very good   
   to make one -dead-.   
      
      
   but, YHWH cannot be hurt by picking up the -signals-   
   of that 'cherub' that was purposing in its heart   
      a "lie" against YHWH.   
      
   ==   
   Isaiah 14:12-14   
      
   How you are fallen from heaven, O HeylEl, son of the morning!   
   How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations!   
   For you have said in your heart:   
   I will ascend into heaven,   
   I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;   
   I will also sit on the mount of the congregation   
   On the farthest sides of the north;   
   I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,   
   I will be like the Most High.\92   
   ==   
      
   see, YHWH could not be "poisoned" -by- such an attitude, and, in fact,   
   is the Only GOD able to see clearly enough to fully expose such   
   a purpose in a heart -as- incorrect.   
      
   etc.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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