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   Message 30,046 of 30,222   
   Georg Tillerman to All   
   Re: How to Celebrate The Day of Rest   
   21 Jul 23 10:10:05   
   
   XPost: alt.bible, alt.messianic, alt.religion.christian   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife   
   From: tiller@soil.org.9   
      
    > How to Celebrate The Day of Rest;   
      
    > Bring your True Faith before Your God with empty hands and nothing else.   
      
    > "where do we get this snake oil?"   
      
    > God will provide the Offering.   
      
    > and now, the commentary;   
      
   well, it's less 'commentary' and more /what brought me here?/... Today   
   to make that statement...   
      
   i caught a glimpse of the Cain and Abel story on the news   
      
   and i went back to before the beginning, again, and simply asked   
      
   "who asked?"   
      
   as in,I don't see YHWH God anywhere in this episode   
   ask Cain or Abel or Adam or anyone else,,,For anything,   
   like an offering or whatever.   
      
   Cain and Abel just took it upon themselves to bring some sort of   
   offering, and God /looked/ at one and didn't /look/ at tuther.   
      
   but, we remember, that God searches the hearts and tests the minds of   
   people.   
      
      
   ==   
   Jeremiah 17:10   
      
   I, YHWH, search the heart, I test the mind,   
   Even to give every man according to his ways,   
   According to the fruit of his doings.   
   ==   
      
      
   God reveals a hand slowly...   
      
   so, while YHWH God was searching the hearts of these Two,   
   of whom nothing was asked,  God must have detected some   
   the Whys and the Wherefores of these two.   
      
   WHY are these two bringing things to God?   
      
      
   oh, by the way, look who else searches and tests;   
      
   ==   
   Revelation 2:18 ; 23   
      
   ā€˜These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire,   
   <...> and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the   
   minds and hearts.   
   And I will give to each one of you according to your works.   
   ==   
      
      
   one's intentions was pure and one's wasn't.   
      
   "not as the world gives do i give you"  [John 14:27]   
      
   see, Jesus already mentioned a distinction, between how "the   
   world..."gives""   
      
   and how God ..."gives"   
      
   and clearly when God gives, God expects nothing in return,   
      
   "lend , hoping for nothing in return"  [Luke 6:35]   
      
   but, "the world" does expect things in return for a gift..."quid quo   
   pro" [see Luke 14:12]   
      
   so, what's this got to do with The "Sabbath"?   
      
      
   just don't bring some wierd "offering" like a cake with a file in it   
      
   cuz that isn't going to get you in to free territory,   
      
   that's just gunna _prove_ that your mind and heart are /still/ jailed up.   
      
   no, you face your Maker empty handed, don't bring a greasy rag with you,   
      
   or Anything so as to focus attention of you and your so-called   
   "accomplishments"   
      
   Be a hilariously happy giver, that's fine,   
      
   but don't use -that- as some sort of leverage to Get you some thing else   
   in return...   
      
      
   see how easy this is?   
      
   it practically writes itself...   
      
      
   "yeah, but what's the point?"   
      
      
   POINT?   what Point?   
      
      
   the dang thing STARTED with the point...   
      
      
   Cain slew Abel    cuz the Tree disease had already spread to his heart   
   and mind.   
      
      
   and what's the Tree disease?   
      
      
   in a word////                want   
      
      
   let's not circle in the dessert...   
      
      
   i'll stop here for a while...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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