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   From: tiller@soil.org.9   
      
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   > Isaiah 60:19-20   
   >   
   > "The sun shall no longer be your light by day,   
   > Nor for brightness shall the moon give light to you;   
   > But YHWH will be to you an everlasting light,   
   > And your God your glory. Your sun shall no   
   > longer go down, Nor shall your moon withdraw itself;   
   > For YHWH will be your everlasting light,   
   > And the days of your mourning shall be ended.   
   > =   
   > Revelation 21:22-23   
   >   
   > But I saw no temple in it, for the   
   > Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.   
   > The city had no need of the sun or of the moon   
   > to shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it.   
   > The Lamb is its light.   
   > ==   
      
   a longer version;   
      
      
   "the Lamb is the Lamp"   
      
   ---   
   Revelation 21:23   
   And the city has no need of the sun nor of   
   the moon, that they should shine for it; for   
   the glory of God has enlightened it, and   
   the lamp thereof [is] the Lamb.   
   ---   
      
   remember who the Lamb is;   
      
   ---   
   John 1:29   
   The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him,   
   and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes   
   away the sin of the world!   
      
   John 1:36   
   And looking at Jesus as He walked,   
   he said, "Behold the Lamb of God!"   
   ---   
      
   what you should see is that a "lamp"   
   -is- a spirit in what we may call   
   "bible parlance" that is, you should   
   see how a "lamp" is used as   
   synonymous with spirit.   
      
   God's Own Lamp is not a   
   vessel like Alladin's lamp.   
      
   a "lamp" is also the light that shines.   
      
   greek; "lampein" means "to shine"   
      
   Holy Spirit is, in fact, a lamp.   
      
   David says this;   
      
   ---   
   Psalm 119:105   
   Your word is a lamp to my   
   feet And a light to my path.   
   ---   
      
   but see, he's already said this;   
      
   ---   
   Psalm 51:11   
   Do not cast me from your presence   
   or take your Holy Spirit from me.   
   ---   
      
      
   the reason that David could say that   
   YHWH's Word was a lamp to his feet was   
   -because- the Holy Spirit was a   
   lamp to his mind.   
      
   because;   
      
   ---   
   Isaiah 6:10   
   Make the heart of this people calloused; make   
   their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise   
   they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears,   
   understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed."   
   ---   
      
      
   which implies that without God's light to   
   the mind, you can read the God's Word all   
   day long and get zero out of it.   
      
   and all the bits about the eye   
   being the lamp of the body etc.   
      
   the Holy Spirit is the Eye of God   
      
   it illuminates man.   
      
      
   ---   
   Proverbs 20:26-28   
   A wise king sifts out the wicked, And   
   brings the threshing wheel over them.   
   the spirit of a man is the lamp of YHWH   
   Searching all the inner depths of his   
   heart. Mercy and truth preserve the king,   
   And by lovingkindness he upholds his throne.   
   ---   
      
      
   the spirit of man is the lamp of YHWH.   
   therefore, a "spirit" is like a lamp.   
      
   now look here;   
      
      
   ---   
   1 Corinthians 2:11   
   For what man knows the things of a man except the   
   spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one   
   knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.   
   ---   
      
      
   alright, so you see that man has a spirit   
   in him and God, also, has a Spirit.   
   can say "is a Spirit" but that's   
   not the issue here.   
      
   so look, if man's spirit, is YHWH's lamp,   
   then God's Spirit is God's OWN Lamp.   
      
   and one that burns perpetually and never   
   need fueling or refilling or whathaveyou.   
      
   look at these from Exodus, which are   
   likenesses of the Eternal Realities.   
      
      
   ---   
   Exodus 27:20   
   "And you shall command the children of Israel   
   that they bring you pure oil of pressed olives   
   for the light, to cause the lamp to burn continually.   
      
   Leviticus 24:2   
   "Command the children of Israel that they bring   
   to you pure oil of pressed olives for the light,   
   to make the lamps burn continually.   
      
   Leviticus 24:4   
   He shall be in charge of the lamps on the   
   pure gold lampstand before YHWH continually.   
   ---   
   ---   
   Hebrews 9:24   
   For Christ has not entered the holy places   
   made with hands, which are copies of the true,   
   but into heaven itself, now to appear in the   
   presence of God for us;   
   ---   
      
      
   see, these Lamps are to burn continually.   
      
   yes, they are physical copies and shadows of   
   the eternal realities, but the point of issue   
   is that they are -supposed- to be ever burning   
   and as such, God's Spirit never ceases,   
   but is everlasting.   
      
   i throw this in just for good measure;   
      
   ---   
   2 Samuel 22:28-30   
   You will save the humble people;   
   But Your eyes are on the haughty,   
   that You may bring them down.   
   "For You are my lamp, YHWH;   
   YHWH shall enlighten my darkness.   
   For by You I can run against a troop;   
   By my God I can leap over a wall.   
   ---   
      
      
   look, YHWH is a lamp also.   
      
   just like Lamb is a lamp.   
      
   Lamp is a figurative term   
   used to describe a facet of God.   
      
   please, this is considering a Spiritual thing,   
   in terms that only shadow the reality. we are   
   not considering Lamb as if Lamb was a lamp   
   which must be continually filled with oil   
   and whose wick must be trimmed etc.   
      
   this is not the case.   
      
   this "lamp" is an integral part of God.   
      
   in fact, it's as if this Lamp -is- God,   
   and that is exactly how you should   
   be seeing this.   
      
   YHWH is sending YHWH into a human flesh.   
   that which resides in the flesh is YHWH.   
   the True Light.   
      
   but now, we see that Lamb is alive   
   forevermore and everlasting, as before.   
      
   and as above, just as the spirit in man   
   is YHWH's lamp, so is Christ's Spirit,   
   the Holy Spirit, God's OWN Lamp.   
      
   only this Lamp is perpetually lit.   
      
   and God's Glory Shines forth from God.   
      
   God is both Light and Lamp.   
      
      
   ---   
   Matthew 6:22   
   "The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore   
   your eye is good, your whole body will be full   
   of light.   
      
   Luke 11:34   
   The lamp of the body is the eye. Therefore,   
   when your eye is good, your whole body also   
   is full of light. But when your eye is bad,   
   your body also is full of darkness.   
      
   Revelation 5:6   
   And between the throne and the four living creatures   
   and among the elders, I saw a Lamb standing, as though   
   it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes,   
   which are the seven spirits of God sent   
   out into all the earth;   
   ---   
      
      
   see, The Lamb has seven eyes like seven   
   lamps only some agree that seven is ONE Week,   
   and these seven eyes are the seven sprits of God,   
   which most will agree there is but One Spirit of God.   
      
   so, this agrees quite readily   
   with what was shown above.   
      
   that this "Lamp" is God's Own Spirit,   
   and not a thing which is -not- God.   
      
   can you see this?   
      
   and God's Lamp never goes out nor is it   
   in need of refueling, nor is it an   
   abstractable thing which is -not- God.   
      
   this "Lamp" is God's OWN Spirit.   
      
   and the Lamb has -Eyes-   
   which are God's Spirit.   
      
   and therefore, as it were,   
   the Lamb is Lamp, but not   
   -only- Lamp.   
      
   God -is- a Holy Spirit.   
      
   and this Light burns perpetually.   
      
   and Jesus is The Lamb and   
   The Lamb is The Lamp and the   
   Lamp is The Spirit of God.   
      
      
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