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|    Give and forgive - the two wings of pray    |
|    19 Sep 23 00:52:42    |
      From: richarra@gmail.com              Give and forgive - the two wings of prayer              Augustine of Hippo (354-430 AD) describes Jesus double precept to give       and forgive as two essential wings of prayer:              "Forgive and you will be forgiven. Give, and it will be given you.       These are the two wings of prayer on which it flies to God. Pardon the       offender what has been committed, and give to the person in need"       (Sermon 205.3). "Let us graciously and fervently perform these two       types of almsgiving, that is, giving and forgiving, for we in turn       pray the Lord to give us things and not to repay our evil deeds"       (Sermon 206.2).              ============       September 19th - Our Lady of La Salette              On September 19, 1846, Our Lady appeared to two small shepherds,       Maximin Giraud and Melanie Calvat. The beautiful lady, as the children       called her, appeared in an attitude of profound sadness asking prayers       and penance to help her prevent the arm of her Son from falling over       humankind for its sins. Our Lady also revealed to the shepherd       children a secret. Since this apparition took place on the mountain       call La Salette in the Diocese of Grenoble, France, a new invocation       of Our Lady soon spread throughout the world – Our Lady of La Salette.              There have been three major apparitions of Our Lady in the last 150       years: La Salette, Lourdes and Fatima. In all them the Church accepted       the authenticity of the apparitions and endorsed them by making       special feasts to commemorate them. In each of those three apparitions       Our Lady left a secret. In all of them, Our Lady manifested herself as       profoundly sad because of the state of mankind, and predicted an       enormous chastisement that would come at a chosen moment.              You are constantly in contact with members of the High and Low Clergy       as well as with Catholic laypeople who are very happy, who think that       everything is going very well. If you tell these people that a       chastisement is being prepared for humankind, they respond that it is       absurd. They affirm that today Religion is in an extraordinary       progress.              Next to such people we look gloomy and sad. We play the role of the       pessimistic hypochondriacs who do not fit into the joyful, carefree       atmosphere of our days, which always disseminates an optimistic and       positive opinion about everything. Our role is a hard one, because it       is always hard to foresee and announce chastisements for a mankind       turned toward enjoying life. It is not surprising that very few people       are willing to believe and follow our political and religious       perspectives regarding events, which demonstrates the ever greater       victory of the Revolution. They do not want to hear about the great       chastisement that God is preparing.              This is characteristic of all epochs that take the wrong path. When       people hear someone saying that they are going astray, they do not       listen to him. For this reason, the great chastisements come. If the       people would listen, they would convert, and the chastisement would be       averted. It is precisely because they do not open their souls to the       message that the catastrophe becomes inevitable. The fact that they do       not believe in Our Lady’s messages is the proof that those messages       will be fulfilled.              Someone could object: Over 150 years have gone and nothing has       happened. How have these messages been fulfilled? I sustain that in       ovo (in the egg; in its seed) the great chastisements have begun. Our       Lady appeared in La Salette in 1846; in 1870 the Franco-Prussian war       started as a result of the rivalry between France and Germany. This       rivalry would reach an apogee in 1914 and be the most profound cause       for World War I, as well as for World War II. The quarrels of WWII       have still not been resolved completely and the perspective of a World       War III lies on the horizon. A possible WWIII with its nuclear       apocalypse can very well be the start of great chastisement predicted       in La Salette and Fatima.              The great chastisements of God defy the patience of those few who are       faithful. The most characteristic example was the Deluge where       everybody laughed at Noah who was building his ark in expectation of a       great chastisement. It took him 100 years to complete his work, and       then the Flood came. At times Noah might have been tempted to think       that he was wrong and that the people laughing at him were right. But       he did not relent. He remained faithful to the message he received       from God and continue to prepare for the chastisement. The fact that       it took a long time to come did not mean that it would not come;       rather, it meant that it would be an enormous chastisement.              Our Lord predicted that the Temple of Jerusalem would be destroyed.       When He died, an earthquake shook its floors and the veil of the       Temple was rent in the middle. Some walls were damaged but the Temple       remained standing. Decades passed and the prophecy was not fulfilled.       Several times the faithful of Jerusalem thought that the signs were       ripe for the chastisement and fled to the mountains, as Our Lord had       advised them to do. However, nothing happened and they returned to       their normal lives, perhaps a little discouraged. Then, 40 years after       Our Lord’s death, and apparently by chance, a soldier from the army of       Titus threw a torch into one of the side windows of the Temple; the       fire spread quickly, swallowed all the buildings, and then, in truth,       not one stone remained over the other just as He had predicted.       Afterward the Temple was never rebuilt.              We should be convinced that we were chosen to be among the few who       listen to the voice of Our Lady and wait for the chastisement she       predicted. These cherished ones must give proof of their love. They       must give proof of their fidelity before the word of God is       accomplished. This is the situation we are in. I don’t know how many       years we must await the promises of La Salette and Fatima to be       fulfilled. At times we think: “Now it has to come, because it is       impossible for the situation to be any worse.” Then, it doesn’t come.       The stormy sky releases just some few drops of rain and dissipates.       Again the sky becomes stormy… People laugh at us. We should remember       Noah. When the rain finally fell, it was the Deluge.              To confide against all appearances, and believe after all the delays       is the demand of God in selecting those with whom He will make His       alliance. This is the great teaching of La Salette. This is the spirit       we should ask to receive on the feast day of Our Lady of La Salette:              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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