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From: dalton@nfld.com
In article
<45baf428-26f3-468e-8330-f9b5b5d94051@w8g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Linda Lee wrote:
> On Dec 10, 9:59 pm, David Dalton wrote:
> > In article
> > <886cfd05-6cf3-451e-bc28-3cb53338e...@a2g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> > Linda Lee wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 10, 9:34 pm, David Dalton wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <391a69b8-40b9-449a-a629-b0cf88f79...@17g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > And again, I claim on my Salmon on the Thorns web page
> > > > to be one of a long line of figures similar to Jesus.
> > > > So if I was Jewish I would claim to be a messiah
> > > > and if I was Christian I would claim to be a Christ.
> >
> > > That is delusional, and it is not following Jesus. You are not a
> > > Christ.
> >
> > During and after my sun stare
>
> Did you never hear you will ruin your eyes by staring into the sun?
> That is why people shield their eyes during an eclipse, so that the
> ability to stare at the sun longer without the eyes tearing up won't
> ruin their eyes.
It was not long before sunset and only for a few seconds,
but still I don't plan to repeat it. But there is a
group of people called sungazers now who do sungazing
regularly (just google sungazing). They weren't much
interested in my experiences though.
> > the heavens opened and wings
> > descended on me
>
> You were temporarily blinded by the sunlight.
No I wasn't. I speculate that that was because I
am extremely short-sighted and was without glasses
or contacts so the sun's image didn't form on my retina,
and because I didn't do it very long although it
seemed longer than it was.
> > and I fell into the water. That is similar
> > to the baptism of Jesus which I consider to be his anointing
> > (Christians say by The Holy Spirit).
>
> It is not; Christ did not do a "sun stare". I'm done with this
> discussion; I told you at the beginning what I would pray for you, and
> what you should do if you really want to feel better.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Vatican had secret information
that Jesus did do a sun stare and later had a blue rose
vision while on the thorns, like me. But I'm not about
to tweet the pope.
But the only difference between the story of Jesus's baptism
and my experience is that in his case he was said to have
rose up from the water and then the heavens opened and
wings descended, and in my case the heavens opened and
wings descended and then I fell into the water (and
then rose up from the water and pulled on a fisherman's
net and then ascended the thorns and had a blue rose vision).
Thanks for the feedback, LInda, and for the prayer.
> > Thus I am an
> > anointed one, or Christ, or messiah. (Both Christ
> > and messiah mean an anointed one.) I discuss this
> > some more on my Salmon on the Thorns web page,
> > particularly in the
> > subsubpageshttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/christian.htmlhttp://
ww.nfld.com/~da
> > lton/sunstare.html
> > andhttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/jewish.html
> > though note I have yet to add the seven years stories
> > of Jacob and of Nebuchadnezzar (from Daniel) to the
> > Jewish page.
> >
> > --
> > David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton(home
> > page)http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.htmlNewfoundland&Labrador Travel &
> > Musichttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.htmlSalmon on the Thorns (mystic
> > page)
> > "Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
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David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.html Newfoundland&Labrador Travel & Music
http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
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