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   Message 7,211 of 9,157   
   sbalneav to TheInquirer   
   Re: No Ontology Without Epistemology!   
   26 Dec 12 17:36:10   
   
   XPost: alt.philosophy, talk.philosophy.misc, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
   From: sbalneav@alburg.net   
      
   In alt.atheism TheInquirer  wrote:   
   > On 27/12/2012 12:55 AM, sbalneav wrote:   
   >   
   >> The problem, of course, is the kind of person who DOES do some thinking   
   will,   
   >> sometimes, look at your sig, think "Moron",   
   >   
   > the joke is on him.   
   >   
   > and move on.   
   >   
   > might as well!   
   >   
   >   
   >  You'll lose out on a   
   >> potentially enlightening discussion.   
   >   
   > thanks, but no thanks.   
      
   Your prerogative.   
      
   >>> but if you're so offended by the sig as   
   >>> it now stands,   
   >>   
   >> I'm not offended, I'm offering constructive criticism.   
   >   
   > from you?  thanks, but no thanks.   
      
   Again, your prerogative.   
      
   > You may take it or   
   >> leave it as such.   
   >>   
   >>> so much so that i end up on your kill file, i   
   >>> won't mind.  might as well.  i don't think i'll miss much.   
   >>   
   >> Ahhh, there's that unwarrented self-importance   
   >  again.  I try to be helpful,   
   > and   
   >> you make a backhanded slur against me.   
   >   
   > really?  i'd prefer we stick to the discussion "No Ontology   
   > Without Epistemology!".  if not, you'd in my blacklist.   
      
   So, here's what I originally posted:   
      
   > Disagree.  The artcle is basically a very long-winded way of saying "Just   
   > because we see no evidence FOR a God, doesn't mean that the default position   
   of   
   > "a God doesn't exist" is necessarily correct.  The author has taken several   
   > hundred words to basically re-hash the idea of gnosis.   
      
   > Most of us here are AGNOSTIC atheists, that is to say, we don't claim   
   absolute   
   > knowledge that a God or Gods do not exist, but based on the lack of evidence   
   we   
   > do not believe in a God or Gods.   
      
   So the article you originally posted, I feel, brings nothing new to the table.   
   Saying: 'Why should "no Gods exist" be the default position' is just a fancy   
   way of attempting to shift the burden of proof.   
      
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