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|    Solipcism and Fatalism    |
|    29 Nov 14 18:39:34    |
      There are many people who hold a belief that people create their reality, that       there are no unwilling victims, and that people are fully in charge of       everything that happens to them. There are other people who hold the view that       everything is fatally or        socially determined, that free will is an illusion, and that greater forces       are shaping history all the time regardless of people's individual views on       the matter. Both are wrong.              Any knowledge of history reveals that there are plenty of unwilling victims,       and that people influence one another in all sorts of ways all the time.       Denying this is not enlightenment; it is denying reality. The four-year-old       children who got placed in        gas ovens under the Nazis are the most obvious example of unwilling, innocent       victims of other people's wrongdoing. To blame them for what has happened to       them is a monstrosity.              Knowledge of history also shows people moving history in any direction at any       time. Empires rise and fall all the time; and civilization constantly changes.       People can choose whether to go to war or to solve their problems peacefully       all the time. The        Communist claim that the world is moving inevitably toward Communist future       has proven wrong. And in world history, we see everything from Genghis Khan,       to Louis XIV, to Caesar, to Soviet Union, to Native Americans, to Australia,       to the Pala kingdom. And        in America itself, we have seen everything from Theodore Roosevelt to Harry       Truman to Reagan to Clinton to George Bush Jr.              How to make sense of all this? Just through this: Sense. I am not generally an       exponent of common sense, but in this case the commonsensical explanation is       rightful. People are responsible for what they do. We do not create our       reality; we however        contribute to reality. Which means that it becomes incumbent on us to make our       contributions to reality the best that they can be.              In this are avoided the errors of both solipsism and fatalism. We are neither       helpless nor omnipotent. We have power over our lives; sometimes we have power       over the lives of other people such as our children as parents, our employees       as businessmen, and        our constituents as politicians. Any workable concept of enlightenment or       wisdom will recognise this and work within that framework. And any concept of       enlightenment or wisdom that does not recognise this cannot be seen as wisdom       or enlightenment.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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