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|    On Altruism    |
|    12 Jul 17 00:34:25    |
      I was once told that altruism is based on being 3 years old and one's survival       depending upon other people. This is completely wrong. I have had dealings       with altruistic organizations such as the Salvation Army and Medicins Sans       Frontiers. They were not        composed of 3-year-olds. They were composed of honest, intelligent people       working to make the world better.              Another claim comes from Ayn Rand: That altruism is a totalitarian trick. Here       she was confusing the value with the misuses of the value. Just about anything       that is good can be used for wrong. It does not make it a bad thing in itself.       Money can be used        for wrong; that does not mean that money is bad. Intelligence can be used for       wrong; that does not mean that intelligence is bad. Beauty can be used for       wrong; that does not mean that beauty is bad. The same is the case with moral       values. They can be        used for wrong, but that does not make them wrong in themselves. That Lenin       and Stalin appealed to the legitimate virtue of altruism for an illegitimate       goal of creating a brutal totalitarian state does not damn altruism. It damns       Lenin and Stalin.              Then there is the claim that, if you are getting anything out of the       situation, even if it be a good feeling, then you aren't being actually       altruistic. I cannot begin to tell you how wrong this is. Doing good things       should feel good. If it gets        something for you, then you have earned it. Whether we are here as function of       evolution or as God's design, in either case it would make sense that doing       things that are good for others should feel good for you. So if you are doing       something good and        getting something out of it, that is how things should be.              Probably the worst claim I've heard on this subject came from an Indian lady.       She said that she enjoyed helping people because she had low self-esteem. I       told her that it may not have anything to do with her self-esteem but rather       with her values and        education. This kind of thinking is absolutely atrocious. Something good is       presented as something bad. Being willing to help others is one of the best       qualities that you can have, and it is wrong to portray it as psychopathology.              Where the proponents of altruism can in fact go wrong is when they decide that       only altruism is right and that everything else is evil. That is wrong. There       are all sorts of ways to do good things, and there are all sorts of ways to do       bad things. Not        all forms of self-interest are bad. Not all forms of religion and spirituality       are ignorance or superstition. If a person wants to pursue prosperity or to       raise a family or to worship God, that in and of itself is not a problem. It       becomes a problem if        the person is burning the rainforest or flooding the atmosphere with CO2. The       solution to that is not to end economic progress but to move toward smarter       technologies.              Of course the negative experience of Communism has discredited any number of       altruistic purposes. However altruism is not limited to Communism, and I've       seen altruistic tendencies in any number of people who want nothing to do with       Communism. It is a        part of human makeup. As such it can be done in any number of ways – good,       bad, or a mix. Which means that the right way to deal with such tendencies is       not to disparage them but to leave them free to do their work of making the       world a better place.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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