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|    Professions and Ways of Thinking    |
|    15 Jul 17 14:58:17    |
      Engineers and artists generally don't get along; and the main reason for that       is that each pursuit requires completely different ways of thinking. If you're       an engineer, you serve existing realities. If you're an artist, you are       creating and pursuing a        vision. If you're an engineer, you have to be very practical. If you're an       artist, you have to be inspired. We see two completely different forms of       thinking; and people who think in completely different ways will usually not       get along.              But the engineer's greatest area of incompatibility in thinking is not with       artists; it is with salesmen. In order to amount to anything as a salesman,       you have to be a positive person. You have to think positive. If you're an       engineer, you cannot afford        to think positive. You think positive, you fail to anticipate problems. An       engineer who thinks positive will design equipment that will blow up on use.              A successful entrepreneur has to be able to think like all three. He will have       to think like an engineer in order to realistically assay what the market       would demand. He will have to think like a salesman in order to “win friends       and influence people.        He will also have to think like an artist and be a visionary. This is not an       easy thing to achieve, and businessmen – rightfully – get a lot of respect.              There are any number of people who have learned to think in ways that are       appropriate to different professions. Probably the most admired engineer in       history – Nicolai Tesla – thought both like an engineer and like an       artist. He was a visionary, and        he also knew his stuff enough to make his visions practical reality.              Probably the best way to get engineers, artists and salesmen to get along is       for them to understand each other's thinking. Different thinking is       appropriate to different pursuits. If they understand where one another is       coming from, they will be more        likely to know how to deal correctly with one another.              When they do not understand such things, they will likely be hateful to one       another. An engineer would see a salesman as a neon balloon, and a salesman       will see an engineer as a negative ninny. That is because, once again, the two       fields require        completely different kinds of thinking. A salesman has to think positive; an       engineer has to think critically. If they do not understand such things, they       will not get along.              I have maintained positive friendships with people in all four pursuits. They       might not get along with one another, but they all get along with me. This       makes it possible for me to understand each party's thinking in order to       correctly advocate for them        to people who do not understand their perspective or why they think the way       that they do.              Probably the best case for education in arts is that it is useful in other       things besides the arts. Creative and visionary thinking has applications in       all sorts of pursuits, especially in business. Things such as realist painting       and calligraphy also        teach attention to detail; and this can be useful in many other things as       well, especially in engineering. Artists and engineers may not get along for       reasons stated above. However some of the skills that artists learn are useful       in engineering, and even        engineers stand to benefit from arts education.              Businessmen, in turn, stand to learn from all of the above. They need to think       like engineers, like salesmen and like artists. As for myself, I have studied       all of the above; and I recommend that more people do the same in order to       understand whom they        are dealing with in each field.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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