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   False Gods And False Satans   
   22 Jul 17 02:19:27   
   
   For a long time, political correctness had any number of people believe that   
   the Western civilization was the root of all wrongs done against women. Then   
   the Muslims invaded, and that claim could no longer be credibly made, as the   
   Muslims are worse by    
   standards of feminism than any place in the West. So now these people are   
   having to decide whether to look like complete idiots and traitors and side   
   with Muslims, or to admit their error and side with their own countries in   
   which they have enough rights    
   to make their ridiculous claims.   
      
   The politically correct created a false Satan. They decided that there was a   
   single root of evil. Of course they were wrong. But also wrong had been the   
   people who made the Western civilization their god. When you create a false   
   God, it is only a time    
   before somebody comes along and instead calls him Satan. False gods and false   
   Satans create one another.   
      
   We see this with just about everything that is out there. Government.   
   Corporate system. Men. Women. Jews. Reason. Faith. Feelings. Ego. Soul.   
   Science. Capitalism. Whatever may be one's interests, if one is clever enough   
   he could make it look like the    
   definition of good. Then someone whose interests do not correspond with his   
   own will then come along and say that it is the definition of evil.   
      
   Both will be dead wrong.   
      
   The Western civilization is neither God nor Satan. Neither is anything else   
   listed above. All of these can have both positive and negative outcomes,   
   usually a mix. Neither business nor labor are good or bad; both are capable of   
   both. Neither men nor    
   women are good or bad; both are capable of both. Neither government nor   
   private sector are good or bad; both are capable of both. Same most certainly   
   is the case for the Western civilization. Anything human can be good or bad.   
   That is because anything    
   capable of choice can choose to be good or bad, and is in just about all cases   
   a mix of both.   
      
   So these people created a false satan, and they are being met with a real-life   
   refutation that they cannot deny. Muslims are more misogynistic than even the   
   Western conservatives. A much uglier Satan is staring them straight in the   
   face. They can no    
   longer fool people as easily. Then these Muslim dudes come to places like   
   Sydney and Oslo and gang-rape young women and teach young men in bad   
   neighborhoods to be even worse to women than they had been before. So they   
   have a choice: Either continue with    
   their ever-more-obviously ridiculous standpoint, or recognize what is patently   
   obvious and correct the bullshit that they are teaching the kids.   
      
   Are these people the only ones who pull tricks of this kind? Absolutely not.   
   It is fashionable in many places to see the corporate mindset as “reality”   
   and anyone who is not a part of it as not living in the real world. Now the   
   corporate world is    
   real enough; but it is ridiculous to say that it is reality. The Sun is   
   reality. Planet Earth is reality. China and India are reality. The rainforest   
   is reality. Corporate mindset is not reality, it is a mindset. You do not   
   leave “reality” or “real    
   world” when you think in other ways than how it wants you to think. What you   
   are doing instead is acquiring a more complete view of reality. Then, if you   
   go back to the corporate world, you do so with a more informed understanding   
   of the world; and if    
   you do not, you still have a more complete understanding of reality than you   
   did when you were in it.   
      
   So now we see the corporate mindset being elevated to being a God; and –   
   surprise surprise – what do we see is a rise in socialist agitation, where   
   the corporate world is being painted as Satan. Once again, if you create a   
   false God, it is only a    
   matter of time before someone comes along and inverts it and says that it is   
   Satan. The correct solution is to call things by their proper name. The   
   corporate world, the government, the Western civilization, and anything else   
   listed above, is neither    
   Satan nor God. They are human phenomena which, like all human phenomena, can   
   be good, evil, or a mix.   
      
   So Hobbes, then Communists, stated as much as that the state was God. Then the   
   libertarians, anarchists and some conservatives stated instead that it is   
   Satan. It is neither of the above. The state consists of people. So do all   
   sorts of private entities.    
   There is no reason to expect people within the state and people outside the   
   state to be better or worse than one another. Governments can be good and   
   governments can be bad. Private power can be good and private power can be   
   bad. In Western democracies,    
   where governments are elected, official, accountable, checked and balanced,   
   while entities like Texas Oil and the Church of Scientology are not, there is   
   adequate scrutiny of the government and not adequate scrutiny of private   
   entities, allowing these    
   private entities to get away with abuses that are not allowed the federal   
   government.   
      
   With ego, we see some people seeing it as the source of all evil and others as   
   the fountainhead of progress. Some people worship genius or risk-taking or   
   love and others name such things narcissism. Some people worship the mind and   
   others say that reason    
   is cold or immoral. Some people say that unconditional obedience to whatever   
   any given society wants is the definition of good and others say that any kind   
   of conformity is evil. False gods beget false satans. In fact no human   
   phenomenon deserves either    
   deification or demonization. Everything listed above, and more, can go right   
   or wrong.   
      
   So it is time that these fallacies be seen through. No human phenomenon is   
   God. No human phenomenon is Satan. Call things by their proper names. Anything   
   human can go right or wrong. And that is as much the case for the Western   
   civilization as it is for    
   all other things listed above.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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