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|    "Positive Thinking" And Real Solutions (    |
|    28 Jul 17 19:25:23    |
      The biggest problem that I have seen with the New Age movement has been their       belief that everything that happens to people is their doing. This is a belief       that one may develop if he has lived all his life in a protected environment.       However the 500,000        Americans who died during the Second World War do not have the luxury of such       beliefs.              When I talk about such things as the Holocaust, the usual response is that the       Jews had a victim consciousness. When I talk about the atrocities against the       gypsies, the usual response is that they did not follow the rules of the       societies in which they        lived. However the 500,000 Americans and the 20 million Russians who died in       that war did not suffer from either problem.              Now it is all fine and good to encourage such things as responsible choices.       It is in no way fine and good to do away with compassion and principle.       People's attitudes have all sorts of impact upon their lives, but they are in       no way the only factor.        There is a claim by many in the New Age that they are making people better. In       many ways they are in fact making them worse. They are teaching people to have       no ethics or compassion. And that is a terrible wrong to inflict upon humanity.              Most of these people started out from a similar position as did I. They saw       what was wrong with the world. They tried to improve things; they were met       with a greater force; at which point they became totally selfish and made a       religion of the self. I am        determined not to repeat their errors. I am determined to leave the world a       better place than I have found it rather than a worse place than I have found       it. And so far, the baby boomers are derided both by their parents and their       children for leaving        the world a worse place than they have found it.              At this point I will be accused of such things as being negative. My response       to that is that for a problem to be solved it has to be seen; and if that       means being negative then being negative is a part of the process. Sometimes       you have to be negative.        In Japan, where such ideas are commonplace, and people believe such things as       that you get what you send out, people are not allowed to say or even to think       anything negative. That does not lead to enlightenment; it leads to       suffocating insincerity. When        a nuclear reactor blows up you have to tell people what has actually happened.       Doing anything else is not enlightenment; it is lying.              Being negative can very well spoil your mood. But leaving the world in a worse       shape than you have found it is a far more real and far more lasting form of       damage. You can say as much as you want to that I am being negative. I do not       care. Real problems        require real solutions; and “positive thinking” or anything of the sort       does not begin to accomplish such a thing.              It is not my interest to either think positive or to think negative. It is my       interest to think for real. Neither positive thinking nor negative thinking       begins to be adequate for confronting the tasks with which we are being faced.       A positive thinker        would say that focusing on such things is being negative or not taking       responsibility. A negative thinker would say that these problems are beyond       our capacity to solve. Both will be dead wrong.              The real solutions come from facing the problems squarely and honestly. They       do not come from acting like a grade school coach. They do not come from       thinking positive. They come from thinking for real. I am not at all concerned       as to whether I am        feeling positive or negative. I am concerned about what world we are leaving       behind for our children. If recognizing such things is being negative, then       once again, being negative is a part of the process.              Once again, I do not advocate negative thinking either. Negative thinking can       be deluded as well. A negative thinker would see anything good as yet another,       sneakier attempt to do evil. I dealt with a number of such people, and I have       come away with the        conclusion that they are as full of crap as the people who think positive.       They think that they are smarter; they are not. Critical thinking is a value;       negative thinking is not a value. But neither, again, is positive thinking.              Thinking should not be based on the mood in which one finds himself. Thinking       should not be either positive or negative. Thinking should be real thinking.       Now maybe being positive can “win friends and influence people” if you are       a businessman or a        salesman; but in science or engineering or policy it does not begin to work.       In all such cases, you cannot afford to think positive. You have to think       analytically. You have to think things through, and you have to anticipate       problems. A scientist or an        engineer who thinks positive will design equipment that will blow up on use.              The solution with which these people came up – positive thinking – is       completely wrong. Positive thinking will not solve global warming. Positive       thinking will not solve the gender war. Real thinking and real solutions will       solve these and other        problems with which we are faced.              Does saying such things make me negative? No, it makes me concerned for the       future of the world in which my daughter will be living. I am determined not       to make the baby boomers' mistake. I am determined to leave the world in a       better and not a worse        shape than what I have found it. At which point there will be more, not less,       for people to be actually positive about.              The belief that people are responsible for everything that happens to them is       outrageous. The 500,000 Americans who died in the Second World War were       neither negative nor weak. They did what was required at the time. Most of       them were far stronger people        than anyone in the New Age movement. Nor were they in any way irresponsible.       And it is a complete insult to these people to claim that they had created       their reality.              This kind of thinking does not create good people. Instead it creates       scoundrels. It creates people who have no ethics or compassion. The people who       went from 1960s idealists to New Agers did not become better; they became       worse. They lost their        compassion and ethics. Maybe some of them became successful; but then again so       have many Mormons. If you have drive and intelligence, you stand a chance of       succeeding in America whatever your beliefs happen to be.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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