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|    "Believing In Yourself"    |
|    07 Aug 17 00:13:33    |
      When I attended a poetry reading in Melbourne, there was a man there who sang       a song that went like, “You have to believe in yourself... you don't have a       position because you do not believe in yourself.”              That man was utterly full of crap.              I have known any number of highly effective people. Most of them believed, not       in themselves, but in something greater than themselves. Believing in yourself       can be a source of strength, but it is neither the only nor the best source of       strength. Some        people with such beliefs have become successful. But so have any number of       Muslims, Mormons and Sikhs.              The Freemasons pretty much run the world. Yet Freemasons require a belief in       something. They do not tell you what you have to believe, but they state       outright that an atheist can never be a Freemason. There appears to be a very       good reason for this.              If all that you believe in is yourself, then you are going to be selfish and       you are going to be weak. The littlest things would throw you off-balance. You       don't get a promotion, you're a loser. Some idiot is attacking your character,       you are the lowest        thing in the world. Something unexpectedly bad happens, it must be negativity       in your consciousness.              Whereas if you believe in something greater than yourself, you are more likely       to make rightful sacrifices and you are more likely to act with genuine       courage. And these, ultimately, make for much more effective – as well as       more ethical - human beings.              The self is not something that should be believed in. It is not something that       should be deified. Your consciousness did not create the solar system. Your       consciousness did not create the United States. And while there are any number       of people with such        beliefs who have in fact become effective people, so have any number of others       who believe in completely different things.              To respond to the man mentioned above, I am not looking for a position. I am       looking for wisdom, so that in whatever position I find myself I know how to       do the right thing. And there is very little wisdom in attitudes such as his.              Now there have been people involved in mysticism who have in fact achieved       genuine wisdom. I know several. However this attitude is dead wrong. In a       place that has opportunity, anyone with drive and intelligence can become       successful regardless of what        he believes in. They may believe in themselves. They also may believe in       Christ.              The Freemasons do not recommend believing in yourself. They say that you have       to believe in something. Once again, they are probably the most successful       group in history.              Some beliefs have a positive effect on the character of the people who adopt       them. Others have a negative effect. Once again, if all you believe in is       yourself and nothing besides yourself, then you are not going to be a good       person. You will be selfish,        and you will be weak. And that does not lead to improvement in one's character.              I've had respect for a number of people involved in the New Age movement.       However I have no respect for beliefs that are demonstrably wrong. Some of       these beliefs are positively poisonous. I knew a very talented and intelligent       young woman who was        naturally altruistic who said that if she cannot live for herself she cannot       live. This is wrong absolutely. One can live for any number of things other       than oneself. And if you have natural altruistic tendencies as did this woman,       then telling her that        she has to live for herself is not only misguided but destructive and ruinous       in every possible way.              Now maybe it is understandable why these people developed such convictions.       They started out fighting for all sorts of altruistic causes. They were met       with a greater force; at which point they did a complete turnaround and became       totally selfish. I        would encourage these people to rediscover their original ideals. They may not       have had the power when they were younger to make them reality. They do have       that power now.              But when they are going around bullying people and telling them that they have       to believe in themselves or else, they are doing something that is wrong       absolutely. Once again, there are many things that one can believe in and       become effective as a result.        The self can be a source of strength, but it is neither the only nor the best       source of strength. Many Christians are strong. Many Muslims and Hindus are       strong. And any number of them are also highly effective people.              Believing in yourself is therefore in many situations misguided. Being told       that you have to believe in yourself or else is absolutely wrong. The       Freemasons have a much better idea, and so do the Christians. Both of these       groups have become exceptionally        successful. And they did not do so by believing in themselves, but by       believing in something greater than themselves.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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