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|    The Turtoises And The Rabbits    |
|    11 Aug 17 03:06:41    |
      One metaphor that we see all sorts of people currently use is the one between       the rabbits and the tortoises. The rabbit is faster than the tortoise; but the       tortoise outdoes the rabbit through deliberate committed effort.              I am reminded of the Brazilian soccer team. For a long time the Brazilian       soccer team had the flair but not the discipline. They would play       scintillating soccer; but they would lose. So then they had a coach who       corrected that state of affairs. Under him,        the Brazilian soccer team would play boring soccer; but they would win.              In the last two world cups they had neither the flair nor the discipline, and       they played boring soccer and went down in flaming defeat.              There are implications for this in all sorts of things that are more important       than soccer.              For a long time, when faced with men's success at achieving economic and       political power, women decided that they were going to copy men. In the       process they denied what they were as women. And this allowed some of them to       get political and economic        power even as they militated against the qualities in women that are superior       to those of men.              My mother had a sign on her refrigerator that said that “women who want to       be equal with men lack ambition.” She achieved significant success in       computer industry, but she remained very much a woman through all this       situation. She is very beautiful,        very compassionate and very kind. People like her have a lot to teach       feminists.              And no, I do not lust after her.              When faced with the success of a different or a hostile social group, it is       valid to see what they have done in order to achieve this success. It is in no       way valid to deny what you are in the process. If tortoises win through a       determined effort, then        it is valid to learn from them the habits of the determined effort. It is not       valid to deny as a process what you are as a rabbit.              The women who want to be copy to bad men may in fact achieve professional       success, but they will not be happy as a result. They will only be happy if       they learn from the men what they have to learn from the men while remaining       women in the process. Right        now, in America at least, we are seeing women from places such as Slovenia       achieving great success and great influence. They have every right to this       success and they have the right to this influence. They are women who have       learned what they had to        learn from men while themselves remaining women.              This confusion therefore stands to be solved through correct learning of       historical lessons. There are men who have learned to be effective in one way       or another, and there are women who have learned to be effective by learning       one thing or another that        has been appropriaxed by men. Joan of Arc achieved great success – and       respect for the women in her own country – by beating men at their own game.       She did not do so by becoming mean or ignorant in the process.              I have every interest in seeing women advance in society. That stands to       benefit women such as my mother and my daughter. I however have no interest in       seeing women become an inferior imitation of bad men. If I wanted another man,       I would be a homosexual.        Whereas I have interest interest in seeing women who are genuinely good       people advance.                     Are turtoises capable of advancing? Of course they are capable of advancing.       But that does not mean that rabbits have to adopt the worst course fallicies       of turtoises in order to advance as well. Learn from the tortoises what you       have to learn, while        yourself remaining rabbits. And then you will achieve a success that is owed       to rabbits regardless of what turtoises around you happen to do.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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