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   Some thoughts on God (1/2)   
   04 Dec 17 19:26:40   
   
   Oh God how absolute art Thou   
   I hide in the dark but You find me   
   I hide in false logic but You refute me   
   I hiede in drink but You make me sober   
   I hide in sleep but You awaken me   
   I try to argue You away but You win every argument   
   All exists to serve Thee and perfect are Thy ways   
   How glorious art Thou the Lord My God   
   Thou dost not reveal Thy wisdom except as instrument of Thy will   
   Thou art unknowable lest we misuse the truth and seek ourselves to be God   
   Thou art everywhere and rightfully beyond understanding   
   All that is understood is what Thou wants us to understand   
   All that we know is what Thou wants us to know   
   To rely on Thee is to reach for wisdom greater than ours   
   Thou may or may not give the reason, but we find out the reason of Thy intent   
   after the deed.   
   How glorious art Thou the Lord our God, how vast and absolute is Thy wisdom.   
   Thou improves us all through the trials.   
   Thou takes away from us all that distracts us from Thee that we be naked   
   before Thee.   
   Thou makes those who love Thee what Thou seeks them to be.   
   Thou art the author of wisdom and righteousness.   
   How glorious art Thou the Lord our God, how vast and absolute is Thy wisdom.   
   Thou punctures false knowledge and false reason and shows their errors and   
   incompletenesses.   
   As soon as we think we know everything, Thou showest something new and a new   
   way of thinking consmmating and refuting the last.   
   As soon as we think we have worked out a way to live without thee, Thou   
   bringest us to our knees before Thee.   
   Thou unravels all intelect that is not Thine.   
   Thou shatters kings and magnates who are blinded by arrogance.   
   Thou bringest love to serve Thee.   
   All our reason, our wealth, our love and our power are Thine to put in Thy   
   service.   
   If it is not, it is either corrupted or taken away.   
   You break us and re-assemble us into Thy servants.   
   All that exists, exists to serve Thee.   
   How glorious art Thou our God, how absolute is Thy wisdom.   
      
   All that leads us away from Thee fails.   
   All that brings us closer to Thee makes us better and happier.   
   Thou givest and then Thou takest away if we bcome full of pride.   
   Thou makes us and breaks us if we take credit.   
   A mind that does not serve Thee becomes insane.   
   A love that does not serve Thee runs dry.   
   A wealth that does not serve Thee is lost.   
   But those who serve God find true happiness.   
      
   I often have doubts about Thee O God; but Thou dispels them.   
   I want to hide in the darkness, but Thy light is everywhere.   
   How much I want to disprove The, Thou find me and show me Thy truth.   
   Lead me to righteousness God, put me in Your service.   
      
   All human power can be misused. But true power comes from God. The order of   
   God is perfect; people are imperfect. Imperfect people will corrupt even a   
   perfect order. People will use power for wrong. People will mistake their   
   wrongful desires for will of    
   God or inflict suffering on one another. We must love without enabling,   
   correct without bullying, be loving and righteous at once. We must put all our   
   power in service of God. The purpose of power is enforcement of purpose, or   
   else we live in a world of    
   might-makes-right; and there is no greater purpose than serving God. The   
   misuse of power will always breed hatred aand bring down orders that do it.   
   God will find people to change or confront them, to prove to people His   
   reality. Then the order will    
   choose to follow God or be taken apart from within or invaded from without.   
      
   One man's trash is another man's treasure. All that is not appreciated should   
   be taken away until one appreciates it. Truth of God is the greatest treasure   
   that gives us what we need to live good lives. The greatest gift is wisdom, as   
   it empowers you to    
   get what you seek leading you to seek right things. And faith is reliance on   
   wisdom greater than ours that leads you to do the right things whether or not   
   you yourself have been given wisdom.   
      
   Logic is a method, not a worldview. The logic of God is absolute. It is beyond   
   linearity and dialectic; it is all of these things and more. It is by purpose   
   unknowable. When a pattern is apprehended, it is taken apart because the will   
   self-asserts. The    
   nature of will is to seek freedom and autonomy. But will did not create the   
   universe. Will is made happy when it is, despite its own tendencies, put in   
   service of God. Pluto revolves around the Sun, and though it thinks itself   
   cooler than other planets    
   it still orbits the Sun. Love under will is not the law; will and love under   
   God is the law. Eating the forbidden fruit of choice has taken man away from   
   God. Putting the choice in service of God restores the rightful order.   
      
   What God demands is rightful and absolute. His wisdom is vastly greater than   
   ours, as He made clear in Job. God will prove His point, then it is up to us   
   to remember and apply it. Jesus saves by delivering from sin and its   
   exploiters and then teaching us    
   rightful conduct. We then save ourselves using our own choices as directed by   
   Him. When people err from righteousness or love of both, God corrects them.   
   When people are in sin but do not think that they are in sin, God shows them   
   and others how wrong    
   they are. When people are cruel and think themselves righteous God reminds   
   them of love. When people are immoral and think themselves loving God reminds   
   them of righteousness. God works through many people to bring people toward   
   rightful conduct and    
   rightful attitude. The mind of the flesh fails, replace it with mind of God.   
      
   God knows us better than we know ourselves, and He understands our needs   
   better than do we. His judgment is vastly superior to ours. He is a loving   
   father who will give us what we need if we do not challenge Him. Do not try to   
   replace God or compete with    
   God; be man in service of God and be risen to glory.   
      
   God wants us to be our best and to go through challenges. He gave us the   
   tools, it is up to us to wield them correctly.   
      
   God uses everyone, including people who do not believe in Him, to make His   
   point. Some of these people have rightful things to say. Then as they build   
   their own orders, errors in them accumulate, until people start hungering   
   again for God's guidance,    
   which He is often happy to provide. Sometimes people rebel against God and do   
   something else. Sometimes they come back to God. Many of us are ungrateful   
   brats in this regard, and it definitely takes a very patient and loving God to   
   put up with us.   
      
      
   [continued in next message]   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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