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   Message 7,988 of 9,157   
   Timothy Sutter to All   
   Re: a million avatar/buddha/christ types   
   03 Mar 19 15:24:26   
   
   XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.magick, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic   
   From: a202010@mail.com   
      
   God is Breathing eternally God.   
      
   when the breathing Spirit moves forward   
   in some utterance, this Word brings   
   the Spirit in to a 'new place'   
      
   a 'new place' that comes in to being   
   simultaneously with the utterance.   
      
   before this beginning, God knows God   
   as the private inspiration of God.   
      
   before this beginning, Love is a   
   private matter known only in God.   
      
   one can suggest that The Word which is   
   always present in Spirit and with Spirit   
   summarily formulates an encapsulation   
   of God's own Spirit, and,   
                             as God speaks   
   this unseen Word, that which was not seen,   
   becomes seen, and God is beginning to show   
   that which God has always known.   
      
   in this beginning, of material and   
   non-material structures, is seen the   
   evidence of the unseen Word   
                              and, as   
   the unseen Word is made manifest,   
   so also, the Spirit is realized   
   in this 'new place'   
      
      
      
      
   strange is the singular declaration   
   made by God and conceived in   
   the human Mary,   
                   is   
   different from the multiple   
   declarations made by God which   
   resulted in the material universe.   
      
   which is to say: the material universe   
   is brought forth in discrete stages,   
              whereas   
                     Jesus,   
   that ultimate manifestation of The Word,   
   came about in one complete declaration.   
      
   if we say that each declaration made by God   
   carries an exacting image of God's own presence,   
   then, the multiple declarations made in bringing   
   forth the material universe, each resemble   
   particular manifestations of Theistic attribution,   
      
   whereas, that singular declaration which   
   conceives Christ, is the Spirit made Word   
                              made material.   
      
      
   God has taken hold of this 'new place' and   
      
   the multiple manifestations all reside as One.   
      
      
      
   The Word made manifest is God,   
      
   but, a summed duplication of God is not God,   
      
   this drama serves first to demonstrate   
   with crystal clarity that God is God   
   and there can be no other God.   
      
   while God knew that God's own Spirit   
   would be presented with undeniable   
   clarity in God's own Word,   
      
   God can also be aware that any summation   
   of all Theistic attribution would remain   
   short of the Fullness of Deity in Love,   
      
   but, any lack of recognition of God's   
   Ultimate Preeminence in All   
                   found in any summed   
   duplication of God's attributes must   
   be met with the strictest Judgement   
   until such time as God's own Mercy   
   is to be correspondingly bestowed.   
      
   to be 'not God' is not a crime.   
      
   to be 'not God' and not comprehend,   
           must be treated as a crime.   
      
   such chastizement is unutterably profound   
      
   subsequently, the removal of all blot is   
      
   Joy unspeakable and full of Glory.   
      
      
      
      
      
   God acts according to God's own Will   
   founded in that Love which human beings   
   aspire to comprehend.   
      
      
      
      
   God spins out a governing authority   
                  as independant Beings.   
      
      
   before we examine the purpose to which   
   these independant Beings were spun out,   
      
   we would consider that in spinning out   
   these structural elements as independant   
   characteristics, these elements first take   
   on the attribute of 'not God' inasmuch as   
   they become as creations, and therefore,   
   God must redeem these structural elements,   
   themselves, in to full unity with God.   
      
   what could be considered strange, is that   
   any of these God breathed characteristics   
   could turn around, and view God as subject   
   to -it's- authority.   
      
   so, now, looking at this view, we can   
   easily see a potential for God's own   
   creation to turn on God and convince   
   itself that God belongs in   
   -its- dominion.   
      
      
   the Creator being ruled by a creation.   
      
      
   such authority as God already possesses   
   in God's own Perfect Will in Love.   
      
      
       God acts according to God's   
       own Will founded in Love.   
      
      
   such a turnaround could found a Selfish   
   elevation which would nullify ·that·   
   creation's claim to Love, the defining   
   characteristic of God.   
      
      
   should such a turnaround occur, its reckoning   
   as a potential hazzard would already have been   
   recognized, but still, it will remain as a   
   controversy in any creation that would desire   
   to subjugate that perfect Will of God.   
      
      
   in so doing,   
      
   ·that· creation stymies its own freedom.   
      
   in so doing,   
      
   ·that· creation distorts it's   
   view of Self to deny that   
   perfect Will of God.   
      
   in so doing,   
      
   ·that· creation captures itself in a snare.   
      
      
      
   to aspire to God by denying that to which it aspires   
   it must deny it's own God breathed characteristics   
   and distort it's own view of it's own authority.   
      
      
      
   meanwhile, God is still God and only Loves.   
      
      
      
   but, ·that· unruly ruler has fallen headlong   
   in to a morass of irrational justifications.   
      
      
      
   whereas, ideally it would have it's   
   independant will in submission to   
   the unity of God's perfect   
   Will in Love,   
      
      
   it now has two ·competing· wills   
      
      
   it has birthed an indecisive   
   competition with it·self which   
   it also translates into an   
   adversarial position against   
   God, its Creator.   
      
      
   Self destruction is immenent   
      
      
   freeze it there for a while...   
      
      
      
      
    > God acts according to God's own Will   
    > founded in that Love which human beings   
    > aspire to comprehend.   
      
      
   we could call this True autonomy.   
      
      behaving independantly according to personal will,   
      coupled with designs only to carry those admirable,   
      harmless and benevolent actions borne out of Love.   
      
      
   as God grants autonomy to its creations, we would   
   not consider it harmless and benevolent to allow   
   any creation to fixate on its own attributes   
   to the point of self destructive idolatry.   
      
   and so, should such a situation arise, during the   
   subsequent course of extracting such a creation   
   from it's self induced strugglings, if God appears   
   to 'smite' that creation with harsh criticisms,   
   we may still conclude that these criticisms are   
   borne out of an admirable Love.   
      
   even if that criticism involves removal   
   of autonomy and exacting demonstrations   
   of shortfall.   
      
   so, we should conclude that God's meting   
   out Justice is itself borne out of Love   
   and alone accomplishes the most Merciful ends.   
      
   it is not that God's work is purposefully 'booby-trapped'   
   but it is as if, in spinning out autonomous figures,   
   God stands at the door when those autonomous figures   
   seek an immediate return to the domain of God,   
      
   and now, God at the door represents a stumbling stone.   
      
   there is no way around God at the door,   
   because God is the door, and the desire   
   towards True autonomy is all pervasive.   
      
   there is this fine line tripwire which   
   is simply inherent in the situation.   
      
   in God as perfect Unity in Love the good   
      
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