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   ibshambat@gmail.com to All   
   Antisemitism: Subset-Superset Fallacy   
   16 Aug 19 23:32:07   
   
   According to some people, the problems of the world are caused by the Jews.   
   They appear to be of the impression that without the Jews the world would be a   
   better place. Here's something to ponder: America has nearly 6 million Jews,   
   Poland has about 800.    
   And yet America, not Poland, is the greatest power in the world.   
      
   One trick I've seen these people play is actually quite clever. They would   
   take a wrongdoing that had Jewish participants and blame the whole thing on   
   the Jews. They did it with slave trade, with Stalin's crimes, with human   
   trafficking.   
      
   The error that they are making is what is known in mathematics as the   
   subset-superset fallacy. That some Jews are jerks does not mean either that   
   all Jews are jerks or that all jerks are Jews. Most of these wrongdoings   
   included both Jewish people and non-   
   Jewish people. As for the Jews, they also include people such as my mother -   
   who has never hurt anyone – and any number of great contributors, from   
   Albert Einstein to Steven Spielberg to Donald Rumsfeld to Ayn Rand.   
      
   That there were Jewish participants in a wrongdoing does not mean that the   
   wrongdoing was authored by the Jews. Once again, most of these have had both   
   Jewish and non-Jewish people. As for the Jewish people presently living, even   
   in cases that there have    
   been Jewish participants in wrongdoings, they have had nothing to do with it   
   themselves. Many white people do not like being blamed for their ancestors'   
   colonialism and slave trade. They need to lead by example and stop blaming   
   contemporary Jews for the    
   actions of Herod or Caiaphas or any other wrongdoer who happened to be a Jew.   
      
   If the point is that some Jews are bad people, that point is correct. But to   
   claim that all Jews are bad, or that without the Jews the world would be a   
   better place, is ridiculous. I know many Jewish people of great character and   
   great intellect, who    
   very much do improve the world with their actions. And they most certainly   
   contribute more than do people who spread obvious falsehoods.   
      
   Are the Jews at the root of what's wrong with the world? Jews did not create   
   the mafia or the inner city gangs. Jews did not invent the Taliban or Westboro   
   Baptists. Jews did not cause global warming or gender war. Throughout humanity   
   there have been    
   many orders, and most of them had many things wrong with them. And most of   
   these orders had no influence from the Jews. So if someone thinks that the   
   world would be a better place without the Jews, they can look at Somalia,   
   Pakistan and any number of    
   places that have none to minimal Jewish influence and that are in much worse   
   shape than any place with a significant Jewish presence.   
      
   Whereas where Jews are not discriminated against, they do great things. Over   
   100 Nobel prize laureates are Jewish; which, for a small population, is a   
   great achievement. And also great are their contributions to science, finance   
   and entertainment. Jews    
   have been the most highly contributing constituency to the Western   
   civilization; and someone who actually believes in advancing the Western   
   civilization will pay homage to the Jews.   
      
   If you've been involved in the contemporary anti-Semitism: Cut your losses and   
   do something productive. The legitimate aspects of your message – that not   
   all Jews are good people – have been heard. But don't go around making   
   ridiculous claims such as    
   that all Jews are bad or that all bad people are Jews. And do not be under   
   impression that the world would be a better place without the Jews. The Jews   
   contribute vastly to the Western civilization and should be credited for what   
   they do.   
      
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