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|    Antisemitism: Subset-Superset Fallacy    |
|    16 Aug 19 23:32:07    |
      According to some people, the problems of the world are caused by the Jews.       They appear to be of the impression that without the Jews the world would be a       better place. Here's something to ponder: America has nearly 6 million Jews,       Poland has about 800.        And yet America, not Poland, is the greatest power in the world.              One trick I've seen these people play is actually quite clever. They would       take a wrongdoing that had Jewish participants and blame the whole thing on       the Jews. They did it with slave trade, with Stalin's crimes, with human       trafficking.              The error that they are making is what is known in mathematics as the       subset-superset fallacy. That some Jews are jerks does not mean either that       all Jews are jerks or that all jerks are Jews. Most of these wrongdoings       included both Jewish people and non-       Jewish people. As for the Jews, they also include people such as my mother -       who has never hurt anyone – and any number of great contributors, from       Albert Einstein to Steven Spielberg to Donald Rumsfeld to Ayn Rand.              That there were Jewish participants in a wrongdoing does not mean that the       wrongdoing was authored by the Jews. Once again, most of these have had both       Jewish and non-Jewish people. As for the Jewish people presently living, even       in cases that there have        been Jewish participants in wrongdoings, they have had nothing to do with it       themselves. Many white people do not like being blamed for their ancestors'       colonialism and slave trade. They need to lead by example and stop blaming       contemporary Jews for the        actions of Herod or Caiaphas or any other wrongdoer who happened to be a Jew.              If the point is that some Jews are bad people, that point is correct. But to       claim that all Jews are bad, or that without the Jews the world would be a       better place, is ridiculous. I know many Jewish people of great character and       great intellect, who        very much do improve the world with their actions. And they most certainly       contribute more than do people who spread obvious falsehoods.              Are the Jews at the root of what's wrong with the world? Jews did not create       the mafia or the inner city gangs. Jews did not invent the Taliban or Westboro       Baptists. Jews did not cause global warming or gender war. Throughout humanity       there have been        many orders, and most of them had many things wrong with them. And most of       these orders had no influence from the Jews. So if someone thinks that the       world would be a better place without the Jews, they can look at Somalia,       Pakistan and any number of        places that have none to minimal Jewish influence and that are in much worse       shape than any place with a significant Jewish presence.              Whereas where Jews are not discriminated against, they do great things. Over       100 Nobel prize laureates are Jewish; which, for a small population, is a       great achievement. And also great are their contributions to science, finance       and entertainment. Jews        have been the most highly contributing constituency to the Western       civilization; and someone who actually believes in advancing the Western       civilization will pay homage to the Jews.              If you've been involved in the contemporary anti-Semitism: Cut your losses and       do something productive. The legitimate aspects of your message – that not       all Jews are good people – have been heard. But don't go around making       ridiculous claims such as        that all Jews are bad or that all bad people are Jews. And do not be under       impression that the world would be a better place without the Jews. The Jews       contribute vastly to the Western civilization and should be credited for what       they do.              https://sites.google.com/site/ilyashambatthought              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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