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   XPost: alt.religion.buddhism, alt.religion.hindu, talk.religion.pantheism   
   XPost: alt.religion.wicca   
   From: dale@dalekelly.org   
      
   On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 16:17:33 -0330, David Dalton    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Nov 29, 2019, David Dalton wrote   
   >(in article<0001HW.2391AAA50364DE5570000E5F62CF@news.eternal-september.org>):   
   >   
   >> On Nov 27, 2019, dale wrote   
   >> (in article<963utel6hseu75re2eh573misn4qoh7tdq@4ax.com>):   
   >>   
   >> > What are the metaphysics that explain suffering and an ending of   
   >> > suffering.   
   >> >   
   >> > Here is one that makes some sense to me ...   
   >> >   
   >> > “You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part   
   >> > of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the   
   >> > universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.”   
   >> >   
   >> > Eckhart Tolle, A New Earth   
   >>   
   >> I think saying that “I am one with the universe” is stupid. I am   
   >> a subset of the universe, though that does not necessarily   
   >> imply that my consciousness is a subset of the consciousness   
   >> of the universe, which itself is a subset of the universe. And   
   >> I believe that the universe was conscious long before the   
   >> human species was around.   
   >   
   >Saying that “I am one with the universe” can be related to   
   >the belief by some Wiccans that their Goddess and   
   >Horned God are female and male aspects of The All   
   >and other gods and goddesses are aspects of the   
   >Goddess and Horned God. Though I am a neopagan,   
   >I don’t subscribe to that view, but believe that many   
   >gods and goddesses once lived as humans and   
   >are not merely facets of The All. Also I don’t believe   
   >that a subset of The All counts as an aspect of The All.   
      
   I think femininity has to be in there somewhere.   
      
   Here are some of my present thinking in terms of Vedanta ...   
      
   panentheism - Dvaita?   
   pantheism - Adviata?   
      
   the meaning of the brush strokes of the symbol Om could be applied   
   both ways?   
      
      
   >   
   >> Also you posted to alt.religion.pantheism, which is not in   
   >> my newsgroups list, instead of talk.religion.pantheism, which is.   
   >   
      
   my  bad, I got the group name wrong   
      
   >I just downloaded a new list of groups from Eternal September   
   >and it does include free.metaphysics, but not alt.metaphysics,   
   >talk.philosophy.metaphysics, or alt.religion.pantheism.   
   >   
      
   same here   
      
   I use altopia with e-s as my backup   
      
      
   >Also alt.buddha.short.fat.guy has a lot more traffic than   
   >alt.religion.buddhism .   
      
   a happy Buddha is great, will add that group   
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   Dale - https://www.dalekelly.org/   
      
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