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|    Holocaust Revisionism And Nazism    |
|    05 May 20 18:43:27    |
      On the Internet, I keep seeing people involved in Holocaust denial. The       central claim is that Holocaust is a hoax perpetrated by Jewish media.              I have a perfect refutation to that claim.              I spent the first 12 years of my life in the former Soviet Union. In the       Soviet Union, the media was not Jewish. Yet it carried extensive descriptions       of the Holocaust, as well as of the Nazi invasion into the Soviet Union that       cost 20 million Soviet        lives.              I do not see why German people should want to have anything to do with       Holocaust revisionism or Nazism. Germany is a legitimately proud country that       is doing well now and has had many real achievements in its history. If they       want to feel national pride,        they can look back to Goethe, Bethoven, Wagner, Kant, Rilke and Nietzsche.       They can look back to Otto Von Bismarck. They can look to the period after the       Second World War when Germany was – and remains – the economic leader of       Europe. They do not        need to look back to something that not only brought Germany total ruin but       gave German people a lasting reputation as the biggest jerks in the world.              Were there impressive accomplishments by Nazi scientists and engineers? Yes       there were. But there were greater accomplishments by German scientists and       engineers both before and after the Nazi era. The Panzers were an impressive       piece of technology; but        so is Mercedes Benz. The credit for these things do not belong with Nazis, but       with the German people.              I have known a number of German people. They did not come across as especially       friendly, but they were hard-working, strong, intelligent, articulate and in       excellent physical shape. Germany has many things going for it, as do the       German people. They do        not need to get their pride from the worst thing that German people have ever       done. They have much brighter spots in their history, one of which is now.              Outside of Germany, I see no reason why Nazism should have any appeal at all.       Why would an American, an Englishman or a Russian want to have anything to do       with Nazism? Nazis were their countries' enemies. Their grandparents died       fighting against them.        To side with the enemy of one's country is treason. I believe in the First       Amendment and vocally oppose political correctness, and even the Nazis should       not be censored or prosecuted. They should however be seen as a hostile force.              I do not say this only because I am of Jewish blood. I say this because I do       not want stupid historical mistakes repeated. Nazism was a colossal stupidity       that brought ruin to Germany and horrendous destruction to many other       countries. There is no reason        to bring back this stupidity. It is something that should be completely left       in the past.              The most worrying situation about this is that not everyone I've known who       bought into Holocaust revisionism was an obvious bastard or an obvious idiot.       I know an intelligent and conscientious person who bought into it, and that       means that it is        something that can no longer be ignored. Instead it should be confronted, and       people be alerted of just how wrong it is.              To people involved in Holocaust revisionism who aren't jerks: Cut your losses.       Do something better with yourselves. Join a church, volunteer, start a family.       Do something that matters. If you are not German, stop committing treason       against your country.        And if you are German, work to actually benefit your country instead of trying       to bring back its darkest era.              To people involved in Holocaust revisionism who are jerks, I do not have any       advice. The best way to deal with jerks is to steer others away from them.       German people do not need to listen to the biggest jerks in their country,       much less so the American        or English or Russian people. What I do have to say to these jerks is this: I       am on to you. As should be many, many others.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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