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   On Structure And Limitation   
   09 Jul 20 18:25:33   
   
   It appears to be human nature for people to be hateful to wherever they get   
   their structure and limitation. For a long time people got their structure and   
   limitation from work as farmers; so they created a technological civilization   
   in which they rose    
   above these limitations. This in turn became a source of structure and   
   limitation in itself; and there have been many people who saw that structure   
   as the universal source of evil.   
      
   Jim Morrison got his structure and limitation from his father, so he wanted to   
   kill his father. Eminem got his structure and limitation from his mother, and   
   he wanted to kill his mother. There are many people on the Left who see the   
   Western civilization    
   and Christianity as the universal source of oppression. This stance is   
   psychotic. There are many places besides the Western Civilization in which the   
   situation is much worse.   
      
   So we have seen feminists claiming that the Western man was the source of   
   evil. Some of them married men from Native American, African-American or   
   Indian or Chinese cultures and found out how wrong they have been. I have   
   known an American woman who    
   married a Native American man who broke her skull so badly that she needed 40   
   stitches. There is a movie about an American woman who married an Iranian man   
   only to experience from him severe brutality. That there is a source of   
   structure and limitation    
   for you does not mean that it is the only possible source of structure and   
   limitation. Compared to the Muslims and any number of others, American   
   conservative men are mild.   
      
   If you are being seen as a source of structure and limitation, the correct   
   solution is to get out of the way. Do not paint yourself as the source of   
   structure and limitation. Let the person learn from life. Let the person see   
   how things are elsewhere. In    
   most cases they will miss what they had when they were with you.   
      
   It appears that structure and limitation is an inevitable aspect of life. So   
   if you are experiencing these things from one source, it does not mean that it   
   is the only possible source of such things. There are many possible sources of   
   structure and    
   limitation. Some of them are part of the Western civilization, and some are   
   not.   
      
   This is an error of which I have been guilty myself. Once again, I have   
   learned to the contrary.   
      
   So we see any number of women in feminism claiming that the Western white men   
   are the root of oppression. They then themselves created a structure that has   
   been in many respects more cruel than what it had replaced. So now we see many   
   men – and women †  
   “ hating this structure. We see, among other things, many young women falling   
   for the line of people such as Eminem and preferring violence by mean but sexy   
   young men over emotional bullying by mean and unattractive older women.   
      
   Once again, it appears that structure and limitation are inevitable aspects of   
   life. A person who rejects the structure and limitation with which he has been   
   raised is often vulnerable to worse forms of structure and limitation. The   
   correct solution is    
   to recognize such a thing and to work with people whose values are more   
   compatible with their own. In most cases they will end up missing what they   
   had been raised with and developing appreciation for it as they deal with   
   people who are much worse.   
      
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   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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