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|    What is the root of taste?    |
|    13 Jul 20 17:25:20    |
      Often, when I write or talk about beauty, someone counters by talking about       “inner beauty.” They appear to be of the impression that the two are       somehow incompatible with each other. I do not see why there should be any       kind of relationship –        positive or negative – between being physically attractive and being a good       person. Some people will be both; some people will be one or the other; and       some people will be neither. We are dealing with two completely different       things, and I see no        reason why they would have any kind of relationship to one another at all.              Then there is the saying “beauty is only skin-deep, ugliness goes down to       the bone.” That also is completely wrong. I was ugly in school, but I am not       ugly now. The reason is not improved self-esteem or anything of the sort; the       reason is that I do        lots of exercise. My ugliness problem was solved through an improved       lifestyle, which could not have been done if ugliness went to the bone.       Whereas there are any number of people I know who are beautiful all the way       through and have been for as long as        I knew them.              We also see claims such as that outer beauty is relative and inner beauty is       universal. This likewise is wrong. While most people would agree that Stalin       was a bad person and that Mother Theresa was a good person, in most cases it       is not nearly as clear-       cut. Some people think that Reagan was a man of great character, and others       think that Reagan was a jerk. “Inner beauty” can be just as relative as       anything else.              The real question to ask is relative – to what? On matters of personal       goodness, it appears to be a matter of values. If you are a conservative you       will like Reagan; if you are a liberal you will not.              This leads me into uncharted territory. What is the basis of taste? It has       been fashionable since the times of the Roman Empire to state that “de       gustibus non disputandum est” (“there is no dispute on taste”). Where do       people's tastes come from?        Why are the tastes of many so different? What is the root of taste? Is there       any logic to it, and if there is such a logic, what is it?              For a long time, emotions were dismissed as being illogical. However anyone       familiar with psychology knows that there very much is logic to emotions, even       if it is not linear logic. Ayn Rand, who rejected psychology, also said that       there is a rationality        to emotions. All things have one or another kind of logic. The same should be       the case with taste.              Most people will agree that Sistine Chapel is beautiful, and that Piss Christ       isn't. Some things are universal, and some things are relative. Judith       Langlois conducted a study that showed a face with a particular set of       proportions to people cross-       culturally, and everyone found it beautiful. At the same time a study that       showed 500 faces to 20,000 participants saw each face getting picked as the       most beautiful at least once. There is absolute beauty and there is relative       beauty. The same, as I        have argued above, is the case for personal goodness, or “inner beauty.”              So that while absolute beauty will appeal to everyone, relative beauty will       appeal to some and not others. We also see the same with “inner beauty.”       Both can be relative, and both can be absolute.              Both inner beauty and outer beauty are good things, but ones that are totally       unrelated. They do not correlate positively, and they do not correlate       negatively. Some people will have both; some will have one or the other; and       some will have neither. As        for taste, it should have as much reasons for it as anything else. The real       task at hand is finding out what is the root of taste.              https://sites.google.com/site/ilyashambatthought              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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