home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   talk.religion.newage      Esoteric and minority religions & philos      9,157 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 8,252 of 9,157   
   ibshambat@gmail.com to All   
   Qualities and Their Potentials   
   04 Aug 20 16:19:06   
   
   When a good person experiences suffering, she will want to keep others from   
   suffering similar things. When a bad person experiences suffering, he will   
   want to make others suffer similar things.   
      
   Sometimes the position of the latter is not altogether evil. In some cases he   
   wants people to understand things that he understands and that they do not. If   
   someone has been through war, he may want to make people who are used to peace   
   have a sense of    
   perspective. Even in less difficult situations it often benefits for people to   
   see how life is experienced by someone else; and it benefits more for them to   
   have an external perspective.   
      
   It most certainly is beneficial for people to understand one another. And that   
   means among other things teaching good people what bad people are like. When a   
   lady who was a wonderful person was saying that she was a bad person, I told   
   her that a bad    
   person would not care what kind of a person he is. Some places set unrealistic   
   standards for character and behavior, and it takes seeing someone who is   
   genuinely bad for people in those situations to realize how good they are.   
      
   Now I do not claim to be a good person – although some do – but I   
   definitely know some very good people, and some of them have been attacked by   
   others. Often a quality can be seen as good from one perspective and bad from   
   another. A person who's kind    
   to others can be seen as either good or naïve. A person who's not always good   
   to others can be see as either mean-spirited or perceptive. Both qualities can   
   work for good or for ill. A kind person can do good, but naivete can lead   
   people to misjudge    
   character and make frequently bad mistakes. A meaner kind of person can be bad   
   to be around, but he may see what others do not and do the dirty work that   
   others would not.   
      
   Sometimes the two make a good team. One practices soft power and the other   
   practices hard power. We see this in politics, where the diplomats act nicely   
   while the military does not. We see Jesus revealing Himself to Paul, who   
   seemed to be not a very nice    
   person, and Paul used his intellect and obsessive focus to become a great   
   moral teacher of Christ.   
      
   Sometimes people see potential virtues as flaws. A person who is an engineer   
   or a manual worker may see potential people skills as deception or   
   manipulation. A businessman or a lawyer would see such qualities as   
   intelligence. Similarly, a jock type may    
   see academic intelligence as being arrogant or effeminate. In fact you want   
   such qualities in a scientist or an engineer. The correct solution is to   
   nurture the qualities into positive manifestation and directing them toward   
   endeavors where they stand to    
   do good.   
      
   The rightful solution is to see the qualities for what they can be and guide   
   them toward what they can be. That is the case whatever the attitudes of   
   others around the person. Often people have a negative attitude toward   
   potentially positive traits and    
   attack them or snuff them out in those around them. This is a bad idea. A   
   quality that is not valued in one place may very well be valued in another   
   place. The correct solution, once again, is to see the qualities for what they   
   can become and guide them    
   toward that direction.   
      
   Sometimes doing such things can be socially disruptive. People are often   
   attached to their beliefs, and when they believe potentially positive   
   qualities to be negative qualities they are not likely to be good to people   
   who have them. If such a person    
   does good, this refutes their beliefs, and that can violate their sense of   
   right and wrong. Also there are many people who want a Confucian type of   
   arrangement in which the son does what the father does, and if he does not   
   then he is seen as bad for    
   society. However society actually benefits when people contribute the most of   
   what they have to give; and this is the case with people who have people   
   intelligence but are born among those who see such things as deception or   
   manipulation as much as this    
   is the case with people who have academic intelligence but are raised by   
   salesmen.   
      
   https://sites.google.com/site/ilyashambatthought   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca