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   Message 8,323 of 9,157   
   Ilya Shambat to All   
   Uses And Misuses Of Values   
   30 Oct 20 21:10:18   
   
   From: ibshambat@gmail.com   
      
   There are people who think that money is universally a good thing, and there   
   are people who think that money is universally a bad thing. Neither is right.   
   Money is how you make it and what you are using it for. If you are making   
   money by computerizing    
   the world, then you are doing a good thing. If you are making money by   
   poisoning the oceans and the air, burning the rainforest, or selling people   
   things that are bad for them, then you are not doing a good thing at all.   
   Money is this: A tool. And tools    
   are morally neutral. They are what you are using them for.   
      
   Anything that has any kind of appeal would see people using it both for right   
   things and wrong things. One major source of confusion in recent decades has   
   been about beauty. Some people decided that, because ignorant teenage school   
   cultures and    
   unscrupulous plastic surgeons use beauty for wrong, beauty as such is a bad   
   thing. It is not. Beauty existed long before such things existed; it will   
   continue existing long after they're gone. Beauty is something that has appeal   
   to people. And anything    
   that has appeal to people will see some people wanting to use it for wrong.   
      
   This also includes things that have moral appeal. While the idea of money as a   
   tool is familiar to many, very few people see the same with values. And that   
   is a major oversight.   
      
   One idea that has moral appeal is the value of altruism. We see this being   
   used both for right ends and for wrong ends. Stalin used the value of altruism   
   to impose a horrible dictatorship. The Freemasons and Medicins Sans Frontieres   
   also appeal to    
   altruism, and they are using it for much better things. One of Ayn Rand's   
   biggest errors has been her equating altruism with its abuses by people like   
   Stalin and Lenin. She obviously did not study Medicins Sans Frontieres. This   
   organization is in no way    
   corrupt or power-tripping. It consists of conscientious individuals who   
   foreswore bigger salaries in order to cure people around the world.   
      
   Another such value is the value of responsibility. This likewise gets used   
   both for right things and for wrong things. There are any number of people   
   claiming belief in responsibility who are actually responsible. There are any   
   number of others who aren'   
   t. If you define responsibility as having a huge house and driving a Hummer,   
   you will be poisoning the oceans and the air and leaving the world a worse   
   place than you have found it. You may genuinely think that you're being   
   responsible; but you're not.   
      
   Patriotism is another value that can get used – and constantly does get used   
   – both for right and for wrong. Honor, love – you name it. Any value can   
   be used for right things and wrong things, as much as is the case for such   
   things as money and    
   beauty. We see this with religions – all of them. We see this with just   
   about anything else that is there.   
      
   The solution is not to reject values any more than it is to demonize money or   
   beauty. The solution is seeing where all such things can be used for wrong.   
   This will be the case with things that carry physical appeal; it will also be   
   the case with things    
   that carry moral appeal. Beauty can be used for wrong; but that does not make   
   beauty bad. Money can be used for wrong; but that does not make money bad.   
   Same is the case with values. Stalin's misuse of altruism does not damn   
   altruism, and Texas Oil's    
   misuse of the concept of responsibility does not damn responsibility.   
      
   My daughter, who has always been very beautiful, does not deserve to be blamed   
   for the actions of stupid school cheerleaders. Steven Jobs does not deserve to   
   be blamed for the actions of Texas Oil. Medicins Sans Frontieres does not   
   deserve to be blamed    
   for the actions of Stalin. Eisenhower does not deserve to be blamed for the   
   actions of Hitler. And contemporary Christians do not deserve to be blamed for   
   the Inquisition or anything of that sort.   
      
   Anything that has any kind of appeal will see people wanting to use it for   
   wrong. This, once again, is likewise the case with things that carry moral   
   appeal. Anything human can be used for wrong. That does not make it as such a   
   bad thing. Money, beauty    
   and moral values all have legitimate appeal to people; and it then becomes the   
   responsibility of the people to use these things right.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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