XPost: alt.atheism, talk.philosophy.humanism   
      
   On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 02:03:18 -0330, David Dalton    
   wrote:   
      
   >Most atheists would say that they do not believe in God.   
   >But if you make such a statement, how are you defining God?   
   >   
   >I think most atheists would say "the creator of the   
   >universe" where the universe is defined as spacetime   
   >and its contents, not as all/everything.   
      
   are you stupid or just retarded? do you know what atheist even means?   
      
      
   >4. an institutional definition, for example as defined by   
   >   the Catholic church.  That I think would be as in the   
   >   opening lines of the Nicene Creed which I think would be   
   >   the same as #1.  The creator part also matches Genesis.   
      
   the same catholic church that has murdered raped and piliged ALOT of   
   humans? The same catholic church that lies and changes thier dogma   
   because they are losing thier slaves?   
      
   >   
   >Probably an atheist would reject all four options   
   >above, and perhaps others as well (e.g. the   
   >father of Jesus; or the one who was incarnated   
   >as Jesus).   
      
   are we talking about the same catholic chruch that claims there is   
   only one god and follows the ten commandments but prays to the father   
   the son AND the holy spirit AND mary?   
      
   sounds like all cathloics are going to hell   
      
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