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   Message 87,904 of 89,766   
   David Dalton to Mike Duffy   
   Re: major religious figures were mentall   
   02 Jun 14 01:39:13   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism   
   From: dalton@nfld.com   
      
   In article ,   
    Mike Duffy  wrote:   
      
   > On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 12:00:33 -0500, Christopher A. Lee wrote:   
   >   
   > > Where did the paragraph I responded to, say that?   
   >   
   > You called him a "loonie", then said in the next sentence: "But your   
   > self-image won't let you realise this you are one".   
   >   
   >   
   > > And his initial stuff was new age woo-woo cut, pasted and spammed   
   > > spammed from his web site titled "Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)".   
      
   How do you know that I haven't changed since I posted   
   that excerpt?   And my thread-originating post (for this   
   thread) was not pasted, it was typed in.   
      
   > His web site has beliefs very unique to himself. I would not call it   
   > mainstream "new age".   
      
   On my web site I make it clear that I have eight main deities   
   but I am not pushing them on anyone else, but I do have some   
   mostly non-religious main messages that I am pushing.   
      
   > > And his shamanism is just off-topic, new age woo-woo, which he didn't   
   > > need to detail but was the meat of his first posts.   
      
   These days I am having some doubt about my eight main deities   
   and am considering going atheist again as I have been before   
   for a number of years.   But if I do so I would leave my   
   main messages on my web site, and leave the description of   
   my mystical experiences, but would remove the deities section.   
      
   > Several months ago, his posts were a lot more difficult to follow. I   
   > believe that his medications have been changed. I find him easier to follow   
   > now.   
      
   For about the past year I have been on divalproex sodium and   
   olanzapine instead of lithium carbonate and olanzapine and   
   I find myself a little bit sharper and steadier.   Indeed   
   while I still say I am in the low years, which began 18 years   
   and 4 months ago, while I am on medication they aren't very   
   low, except in terms of creativity, so I still hope they   
   will end and a period of sustained productive creativity will   
   begin.   
      
   > > dishonest "don't you want evidence?" which is just like the response   
   > > from a local toy collection charity who said "don't you want poor   
   > > children to have toys?" thinking he was being clever.   
      
   I think some atheists would welcome my evidence that I am   
   similar to some past major religious figures and that I   
   have suffered from mental illness.  But obviously you,   
   Christopher, with your knee-jerk abusive replies, are   
   not among them.   
      
   > I don't follow you here.   
   >   
   >   
   > > In any case, not all founders of religions are mentally ill.   
   > > L. Ron Hubbard and Joseph Smith were confidence tricksters who preyed   
   > > on the gullible.   
   >   
   > Agree 100%. Some (Manson) founded cults without setting out to do so.   
      
   In my thread-originating post I said   
   "some past major pagan and non-pagan religious figures."   
      
   --   
   David Dalton  dalton@nfld.com   http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)   
   http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)   
   "I will stand beside the ocean/and revel in  the tide/give myself   
      up to the rhythm/feel it welling up inside" (Colleen Eccleston)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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