XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, alt.recovery.catholicism
XPost: talk.philosophy.humanism
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 22:24:58 +0000 (UTC), Smil wrote:
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>On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:17:08 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:
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>>On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 00:44:03 +0000 (UTC), Smil wrote:
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>>>On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:55:58 -0400, mur wrote:
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>>>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:38:01 +0000 (UTC), Smil wrote:
>>>> .
>>>>>On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:32:03 -0500, Wuss Lee wrote:
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>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 01:13:33 +0000 (UTC), Smil wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 21:58:14 -0400, mur wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:18:22 -0500, duke
>>>>>>>> wrote: .
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 11:44:54 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 06:44:17 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 01:56:12 -0230, David Dalton
>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>These days I am having some doubts about my eight main deities
>>>>>>>>>>>>and am considering going atheist again as I have been twice
>>>>>>>>>>>>before for a good number of years. But if I do so I would leave
>>>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>being atheist is not something you go to and then go away from.
>>>>>>>>>>>Being a true atheist means realizing that the idea of a god or
>>>>>>>>>>>gods is so rediclous
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another way of thinking about that same thing is to think that
>>>>>>>>>> considering
>>>>>>>>>>how huge the universe is, it's moronic to put faith in the
>>>>>>>>>>possibility that there are no beings in it who are advanced enough
>>>>>>>>>>to be considered gods.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who does that? He just can't stop lying about us, to us, can he?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The only one that counts is the one that created the universe in the
>>>>>>>>>first place 13.7 billion years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where did anybody demonstrate this a god was involve? Let alone this
>>>>>> in-your-face moron's?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Especially when there are better explanations derived from a process
>>>>>> of objective investigation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From my pov you're trying to oversimplify a very complex
>>>>>>>> progression of
>>>>>>>> events to the point of not thinking about it realistically at all.
>>>>>>>> But the only thing I've been led to believe about God's relationship
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What frikking god in the real world beyond this rude, stupid
>>>>>> sociopath's religious fantasies?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> humans on this planet is that they accept him
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Only about a third of the humans on this planet accept your particular
>>>>>>>supposed god character, so your claim is a lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's all these morons have - in-your-face, unsolicited bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They're too narcissistic as well as sociopathic, to respect the fact
>>>>>> that we're not even Christian.
>>>>>
>>>>>But they sure don't like it when we treat them in exactly the same way
>>>>>they treat us.
>>>>
>>>> Like what?
>>>
>>>Like when you try to tell us what we think, moron.
>>
>> Most of you like to pretend you have no belief.
>
>No pretence. We REALLY have no belief about gods.
"I know that gods are merely a figment of your deluded imagination" - Smiler
>If you can't accept that, that's your problem, not ours.
"I found out that your supposed god character is a lie." - Smiler
You have SHOWN that you're lying when you claim to have no belief, since you
showed clearly that you DO. But if you'd now like to pretend that you think you
somehow disagree with yourself about it, then try to explain how you want
people
to think you think you do.
>>I point out that none of you
>>are able to comprehend the possbility that there's a god associated with this
>>planet, but you ARE able to comprehend the possibility that there is not.
That
>>means the only possibility your tiny brain has access to is the possibility
that
>>there is no god associated with Earth. YOU people have shown that to be
true. I
>>just point out the fact and then challenge you to try to present evidence
that
>>it's not true. You can't, because it is. Again I challenge any and all of
you to
>>try to present evidence that it's not true.
>
>You believe you can mind-read us to know what we think.
You have SHOWN what you think, then lied about it. YOU did that. What I've
done is present examples of you doing it and pointed out what you did, then
challenged you to try to explain how you want people to think you disagree with
yourself.
>As it's NOT what we think and this has been pointed out to you many times,
You have SHOWN that you have a belief, then later lied that you have none.
That much is certain fact. The only thing in question is WHY you are ashamed of
your belief to the point that you lie about it. Other people have also SHOWN
that they have a belief as well, and they like you have indicated that they
have
strong faith in their unevidenced belief being correct:
"I know there is no god" - bilgat@m.nu
"I have admitted numerous times that I *KNOW* there is not god. On this planet
or any others for that matter." - bilgat@m.nu
"I myself as an anti theist in fact {know} there is no god." - bilgat@m.nu
"I'm not ashamed to admit that I believe that God does not exists at all." -
Steve O
"Of course I believe that God does not exists" - Steve O
"Personally I say 'I believe there are no gods, but I don't claim to know
with certainty'." - Malte Runz
"I believe no gods exist" - Malte Runz
"How many times do I need to write: "I believe no gods exist" for you to
realize that nobody is ashamed of neither not believing in gods, nor
believing gods do not exist?" - Malte Runz
"the utter lack of evidence is enough for me to believe that there are no gods.
Anywhere, anywhen." - Malte Runz
"It is clear that there is no need for an intelligent being." - Free Lunch
"I have already told you that I have considered and rejected one specific god.
I
also reject the gods of everyone else on earth as without supporting evidence."
- Free Lunch
"all gods are human inventions" - Free Lunch
"The gods of the theists who bother us here don't exist, even in non-god form."
- Free Lunch
"As I said .. if the evidence is NOT where it should be if the proposition
were true, then means the proposition is not true. It is simple and
undeniable logic." - "Wizard-Of-Oz"
"I showed an example of evidence that proves god does not exist." -
"Wizard-Of-Oz"
"If a god really existed there would be no reason to have 'evidence' of his
existence. It would be apparent to all. No need to question because all sorts
of
magical events would be common place." - knight@baawa.com
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