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   From: dalton@nfld.com   
      
   In article , bilgat@m.nu   
   wrote:   
      
   > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:02:43 -0230, David Dalton    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   > >The curved tunneling effect, which I also liken to a   
   > >curved horn of oil with its wide mouth towards me,   
   > >that I observed during my sun stare of Sept. 5, 1991   
   > >could perhaps be likened to the tunnel that many people   
   > >have observed during near-death experiences.   
   >   
   > thats kinda funny because many people in fact NOone has ever   
   > experienced that other than in a dream or a delusion because of some   
   > type of mind altering drug   
      
   A lot of people have described such a tunnel after being   
   clinically dead for a brief while before being revived.   
      
   > >Here is the description of the sun stare from my Salmon   
   > >on the Thorns mystic autobiography web page:   
   >   
   > ya know people that stare at the sun are pretty fucking stupid anyway   
   > >   
   > >"I then began staring at the sun, a white throbbing disk, when   
   >   
   > and lets just say that you did. Then you would have serious eye   
   > problems unless it was for just like half a second. There are sun   
   > starers out there in fact I thought about trying it; however, 2 hours   
   > before sunset is not the proper time and you are an idiot   
   >   
   > >the time was not much more than two hours before sunset. Normally   
   > >I would have sneezed to avert the eyes, but this time did not.   
   > >(Luckily I did not have my -11/-10 diopter lenses on, so any   
   > >focus formed well off the retina.)   
      
   No, it is now almost 23 years after my sun stare and I have   
   no serious eye problems other than nearsightedness and   
   astigmatism.  But yes, I was insane at the time.   
      
   > Instead I stared intently   
   > >until it seemed that my entire being was extending out and calling   
   > >to the sun and even beyond, in some sort of tunneling effect, I   
   > >think a glimpse into higher dimensions, and sort of as if you   
   > >placed two mirrors facing one another and peeked inside, that   
   > >sort of curved tunneling (which also looked like a divine curved   
   > >horn of oil with its wide mouth towards me). I was caught up in   
   > >a powerful mystic experience. It was as if there was a higher   
   > >dimensional unfolding, as if the 3 dimensions tilted or dimpled   
   > >somehow and there was a wraparound effect, as if there were   
   > >giant butterfly wings folding in around me. I, a mere mortal,   
   > >grabbing at the skyhook, was then overloaded and blacked out for   
   > >an instant. I fell forward into the water and came to almost   
   > >immmediately, and with back arched and chest up floating as if   
   > >in the upward-facing-dog pose of the yoga sun salutation (inhaled   
   > >and chest up so I wouldn't drown). So that was sort of baptism by   
   > >nature in a way, and possibly extension to my higher dimensional form..."   
   > >   
   > >I also liken this experience to Jesus's baptism, when the   
   > >heavens opened and wings descended, which I believe was   
   > >his anointing by the divine.   Thus I am also a messiah   
   > >type, though I don't say that I am a messiah since I am   
   > >not Jewish and am also no longer Christian.  Rather I   
   > >am a global figure with messages for people in all   
   > >religions and for atheists.  However I am not pushing   
   > >my deities on anyone.   
   >   
   > w3hich jesus? I am sure there were thousands of them getting   
   > baptized.. you moron   
      
   The one for whom the heavens opened and wings descended.   
      
   > >After the sun stare came my naked thorn hill climb, which   
   > >I liken to the crucifixion of Jesus, and my glowing sky   
   >   
   >   
   > You are am idiot and a liar and you are dying for some attention.. I   
   > hope that you got it at your stay at the mental hospital   
      
   I got some during my five week stay.   My experience is   
   perhaps the peak mystic experience known to humans.   
      
   > >blue rose vision later that night.  I relate the blue rose   
   > >to our blue planet Earth but some relate the blue rose   
   > >to Jesus's mother Mary or to Mary Magdalene.  (But again   
   >   
   > why would they relate a prostitute that some guy name jesus banged   
   > every few days to a blue rose....   
      
   I doubt that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute.   Probably   
   she was a traveling musician and Jesus escaped with her,   
   leaving his followers to found Christianity.  I think   
   the Essenes and the Cathors relate(d) the blue rose to   
   Mary Magdalene while the gnostics and some other Christians   
   relate the blue rose to Mary the mother of Jesus.   
      
   > >I am no longer Christian, I am currently pagan, or more   
   > >specifically a polytheistic pantheist.)   
   >   
   > no actually you are a freakin moron that needs to get  back on your   
   > meds idiot   
      
   During the incident I described I was not on any meds but these   
   days I am on 1250 mg divalproex sodium and 10 mg olanzapine   
   nightly.   
      
   Thanks for your polite feedback.   It seems that you would   
   benefit from an interview with a psychiatrist yourself.   
      
   DRD   
      
   --   
   David Dalton  dalton@nfld.com   http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)   
   http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)   
   "The sky full of stars, Like a french lace gown; Shimmer, glimmer   
   I think I'm gonna fall; Whoops catch me mama, that's all" (David Wilcox)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)