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   From: dalton@nfld.com   
      
   Both Messiah and Christ mean the anointed one, but I take   
   that to mean anointed not by any human but by the divine.   
      
   In my sun stare of September 5, 1991, described on my   
   Salmon on the Thorns web page, I observed a curved   
   tunneling effect, like a divine horn of oil with its   
   wide mouth towards me.  Then giant wings of space   
   folded in on me and I blacked out and fell into the   
   water.  The curved tunneling I speculate was a peek   
   by me into higher dimension(s).   
      
   I compare this to the tale of Jesus' baptism, when   
   he rose up from the water and the heavens opened   
   and wings descended on him.  The heavens opening   
   I relate to that curved tunneling.   The only   
   difference from my experience is that he is said   
   to have risen up from the water before/as the heavens   
   opened, whereas I fell into the water after the   
   heavens opened.   
      
   But from the above, Jesus' baptism was his   
   anointing by the divine, and thus he was an   
   anointed one, or Messiah type.  And if he was   
   still a Jew, that would make him the Messiah,   
   though some would say that he would have to   
   fulfill other prophecies before he could be   
   called the Messiah.   
      
   As for me, I claim to be a Messiah type (type   
   since I am not a Jew), Christ type (type since   
   I am no longer Christian), avatar type (type   
   since I am not Hindu) and Buddha type (type   
   since I am not Buddhist).  Currently I am an   
   individual/eclectic neopagan (a polytheistic   
   pantheist) but am not recruiting to my personal   
   religion, but do have some main non-religious   
   messages for the human species which are listed   
   on my Salmon on the Thorns web page (see below).   
      
   I don't know if I am descended genetically from   
   David of the Old Testament, but at least I am   
   descended from him (through St. David) in name lineage.   
   And his five stones and a sling represent the   
   5.5 lunar month separation I three times observed   
   between onset of a waxing gibbous moon trial   
   and onset of a waning crescent inspiration.   
   (I think in the Jewish text there are five   
   stones but in the Christian Old Testament only   
   one stone is mentioned, but perhaps some reader   
   can check that.)   
      
   --   
   David Dalton  dalton@nfld.com   http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)   
   http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)   
   "I see my light come shining/From the west unto the east   
   Any day now, any day now/I shall be released" (Bob Dylan)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)