XPost: alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism   
   From: Budikka1@netscape.net   
      
   The twelve days of Xmas actually start on Xmas day, but this is a   
   countdown to Xmas showing why Xmas is as senseless as it is stupid as a   
   Christian death-cult ritual.   
      
   There is actually no evidence whatsoever that anyone died to save   
   humanity (or anything else).  Crucifixions, yeah, were two-a-penny back   
   then, but there's no evidence that some son of a god was so dealt with,   
   let alone that he rose from the dead after a couple of days.   
      
   Without any evidence, there's no reason to believe.   
      
   Here's a story:   
   There was  a rabbi, name of Yeshua.  He was locally popular, but   
   otherwise unknown.  He was a bit controversial and raised the ire of the   
   local authorities, but before he could be taken prisoner and crucified,   
   he fled Jerusalem and went into hiding.   
      
   He never died, never rose from the dead, but his disciples put the story   
   about that he did indeed die and did indeed ascend to Heaven, thereby   
   "proving" he was the real and true Messiah.  Over time, the story   
   accreted to itself all kinds of additions.   
      
   The fact is that there's just as much evidence for our fiction as there   
   is for the Biblical fiction (i.e. none).   
      
   So prove me wrong: prove my story is wrong and yours is right.  Go   
   ahead.  I'll wait.  I won't hold my breath.   
      
   Budikka - highlighting the 'mental' in fundamentalism.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)