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XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.romance
From: gunnerasch@gmail.com
On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 12:17:23 -0400, benj wrote:
>On 03/09/2015 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:
>>
>>
>> "ĄJones" wrote in message
>> news:445rfah7ded99f4en7tesvee2meog2ee4m@4ax.com...
>>
>>> On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 22:19:30 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Gunner Asch
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> So where DID 6 million European and Polish Jews disappear to?
>>
>>> Probably a million or so did, in fact, perish in the anti-Jewish
>>> social upheaval. Keep in mind that there *was* a war on and the area
>>> you mention was the scene of fierce combat; therefore, one expects to
>>> see a shrinkage in the population.
>>
>>> Many of the Jewish people probably saw it coming and ran... as any
>>> sensible person would do!
>>
>> And many Jews were unable to escape for whatever reason, and were killed
>> in a systematic manner.
>>
>> That happened enough times to classify it as a holocaust.
>
>Which doesn't change the fact that "holocaust" (even this made-up name
>shows the propaganda at work here) is WAY exaggerated for political and
>financial purposes. In Europe I could be jailed for even suggesting
>this. The propaganda has more Jews dead in "gas chambers" than existed
>in Europe at time. When pressed the claimed numbers do drop, but the old
>propaganda lingers on!
So how many Jews did die? Trot out your before and after citations.
>
>There is little evidence of "gas chambers" and mass exterminations as
>claimed.
Odd..there is much evidence of such. Both physical and personal
testimony by everyone from Nazi officials through Sonderkommando and
the survivors themselves.
Cites to "little evidence"?
So much of it is simply lies and "modifications" to truth. Yes,
Cites?
>there were gas chambers. And indeed these had fake shower heads and all
>the rest you heard, but not at Auschwitz.
Which one of the 42 Auschwitz camps are you talking about?
>So when that is proved
>suddenly the story changes and now the "gassings" supposedly took place
>out side the camps or in trucks yada yada yada.
You really either hate Der Juden or you really love Nazis. Which is
it? Or is it both?
Keep the victim money
>coming! The real Gas chambers were for implementing the American ideals
>of Eugenics. Hitler was taken with those ideas and launched a wide
>program to cleanse Nazi society of "undesirables". THOSE were REAL gas
>chambers with REAL people killed until German public resistance stopped
>it
Which German Public Resistance stopped it? White Rose Society? And
when?
. But the images were just too good to not use as part of the "final
>solution"!
>
>Look. Nazis were not nice people. They had no value for human life. The
>concentration camps were for one purpose. SLAVE LABOR! The massive
>defenses of the Nazis were monumental! Absolutely astounding! All built
>with slave labor! The V2 rockets killed more people building them than
>they killed when used against London! But I can assure you that when you
>are losing a war NO GERMAN Nazi or otherwise is going to waste your
>resource of slaves in some program that just uses up valuable fuel and
>manpower to kill them. It's total nonsense. So much better to just work
>them all to death. And work them they did with millions dying in the
>process.
So the Einsentzgruppen were simply figments of some fevered
imagination?
>
>So sure, a horrible evil thing, but still not a good enough story for
>post-war propaganda. Just check the amount of money sent from America to
>Israel since WWII and you'll get the picture. And the beat still goes on.
Check the money going from America to Northern Ireland.
>
>Note: I'm not saying that the money did not return any value to the US
>as a midEast policy, I'm just pointing out the propaganda needed to
>justify the expenditure.
Id have to say you hate the Jews to have this sort of world view.
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
PJ O'Rourke
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