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   Voter to All   
   WE HAVE GOT TO STOP UNPLANNED PREGNANCY    
   17 Mar 18 10:42:37   
   
   XPost: talk.abortion, alt.atheism, talk.politics.theory   
   XPost: talk.politics.drugs, alt.politics.equality   
   From: Voter@Vote2016.com   
      
   WE HAVE GOT TO STOP UNPLANNED PREGNANCY - WITHOUT ABSTINENCE!!   
      
   Telling teens not to have sex, is like telling married couples not to have sex   
   -   
   just because _you_ think it's better.  Would *you* listen?  I WOULDN'T LISTEN.   
   I'M   
   NOT LISTENING TO ABSTINENCE, I'M LISTENING TO BIRTH CONTROL.  Married couples   
   are   
   at just as great a risk of unplanned pregnancy, when they don't want to have a   
   child, as teens, and the average married couple has sex twice per week.  It's   
   just   
   the potential cost, that will be experienced, if that accident occurs, that is   
   greater for teens.   
      
   There is a 100% chance of getting pregnant tonight, without birth control.   
   There is a 100% chance of getting pregnant in 1 year with only the pull-out   
   method.   
   There is a 100% chance of getting pregnant in 10 years with hormonal birth   
   control   
   alone.   
   There is a <1%-<100% chance of getting pregnant in 100 years, with 2 concurrent   
   different types of birth control.   
   There is a 0% chance of getting pregnant in 100 years with 3 concurrent   
   different   
   types of birth control.   
      
   EXPLAIN TO TEENS, ALWAYS USE AT LEAST 2 TYPES OF BIRTH CONTROL, TOGETHER, OR   
   YOU   
   WILL GET PREGNANT.   
   THE CONDOM; WITH THE SPONGE OR DIAPHRAGM; AND/OR WITH HORMONAL OR RHYTHM; FOR   
   FEMALES.   
   THE CONDOM; WITH THE PULL OUT METHOD; FOR MALES.   
   TEENS SHOULD HAVE SEX IN THE COMFORT OF THEIR OWN FULL, QUEEN, OR KING SIZED   
   BUNK   
   BEDS.  IN THEIR OWN ROOMS, WITH THEIR DOORS LOCKED.   
   AND SEXUALITY IS THEIR HUMAN RIGHT.   
      
   You could learn and use the rhythm method, and on those days indicated it was   
   safe, use the pull out method, and/or a condom and/or sponge or diaphragm. Then   
   you could have 2 weeks of sex, and 2 weeks of no sex (including 1/2 week on the   
   period which would also be generally safe).   
      
   Regarding abortion; if you do get pregnant, there is no brain in the fetus for   
   the   
   first three months, and probably no ghost either.  People have memories of   
   being   
   in the womb.  These same people have memories of being a ghost and then being   
   in   
   the womb.  _IF_ there is no brain, nor ghost, in the fetus, then not aborting   
   is   
   making the decision to get pregnant.  While obviously the day before the baby   
   is   
   born, it is just two people attached, but you have a right to detach your body,   
   vs. an ethical requirement to throw someone a rope.  Carrying a baby who eats   
   your   
   body for 6 months is more onerous than throwing someone a rope.   
      
   UNPLANNED CHILDBIRTHS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA LIKE IMMIGRATION IS.   
   THERE ARE 4 MILLION BABIES BORN PER YEAR, 1.5 MILLION UNPLANNED,   
   THAT'S 37.5% OF OUR BORN SOCIETY!   
   NEXT TO 1 MILLION MORE PREGNANCIES TERMINATED IN ABORTION.   
   There are five million pregnancies per year.  Half or 2.5 million of them   
   unplanned.  Half of the unplanned, or 1.25 million, in people who actually used   
   ONE type of birth control by itself.  The other half of the unplanned, or the   
   other 1.25 million, in people who used no birth control.  1 million of these   
   2.5   
   million are aborted. All 2.5 million of them should be aborted in the first   
   three   
   months, and there should be no conscience about early term abortion.  But   
   abortion   
   still costs on average $300-$800.  Abortion could and should be paid for by the   
   government.   
      
   BECAUSE EVERY UNPLANNED BABY OR IMMIGRANT COSTS OUR COUNTRY ABOUT ONE MILLION   
   DOLLARS TO EMPLOY - THINK ABOUT IT.  10% OF $1 MILLION IS $100,000 - THE   
   CAPITALIST TAKES SOME AND THERE'S NOT EVEN A 10% RETURN ALWAYS, SO IT MUST BE   
   AT   
   LEAST THAT - MAYBE $2 MILLION, SO 1.5 MILLION UNPLANNED PEOPLE, EACH YEAR, X $1   
   MILLION DOLLARS = $1.5 TRILLION IN CAPITAL EXTRA, NECESSARY, EACH YEAR.   
   WE DON'T EVEN HAVE $100 TRILLION IN CAPITAL TOTAL YET AS A SOCIETY.   
      
   60 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE COLLEGE DEGREES IN THE UNITED STATES.   
   15 MILLION OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE GRADUATE DEGREES.   
      
   100 MILLION PEOPLE WORK FULL TIME AND MAKE OVER $16,000.  OF THOSE:   
   50 MILLION PEOPLE MAKE OVER $50,000   
   30 MILLION PEOPLE MAKE OVER $75,000   
   20 MILLION PEOPLE MAKE OVER $100,000   
   5 MILLION PEOPLE MAKE OVER $200,000   
   1 MILLION PEOPLE MAKE OVER $500,000   
   300,000 PEOPLE MAKE OVER $1,000,000   
   100,000 PEOPLE MAKE OVER $2,000,000   
   15,000 PEOPLE MAKE OVER $10,000,000 - MANY OF THEM PASSIVE INCOME ON   
   CENTAMILLIONS.   
      
   IT'S PROPERTY VS. PEOPLE.   
   IT'S CAPITAL VS. LABOR.   
      
   WHEN CONSIDERING THE ECONOMY, POPULATION MUST ALWAYS BE CONSIDERED.   
      
   WHEN THE POOR GET RICHER, MUCH OF THE MONEY IS JUST SPENT.  CONSUMED. THE   
   FACTORY   
   WEARS DOWN, AND ISN'T REPAIRED OR IMPROVED.   
      
   WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER, HALF OF IT IS SAVED, WHICH BUILDS CAPITAL - AND THAT   
   IS   
   GOOD.  BUT HALF OF IT IS SPENT ON MANSIONS AND BOATS AND LUXURIES, WHILE PEOPLE   
   ARE POOR, AND THAT IS BAD.  WE WANT AT LEAST EVERYTHING OVER $600,000, IN   
   PRE-TAX   
   INCOME, THAT'S NOT TAXED, TO BE FORCED INTO A CAPITAL SAVINGS ACCOUNT, ONLY FOR   
   INVESTMENT OR BUSINESS PURPOSES - SO THAT AT LEAST 100% OF WHAT THE RICH EARN   
   OVER   
   $600,000 WILL BE BUILT INTO THE CAPITAL WE NEED TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.   
      
   IMMIGRATION IS CHARITY TO OTHER NATIONS, WE TAKE THEIR POPULATION OFF THEIR   
   HANDS   
   AND EXPERIENCE LESSER DEGREES OF ABUNDANCE.  WHILE OUR OWN PEOPLE ARE POOR AND   
   EVEN REALLY STARVING.  THERE ARE 30-40 *MILLION* PEOPLE STARVING IN AMERICA.   
   THERE   
   ARE CHILDREN WHO HAVE NOT ENOUGH FOOD AND WILL HAVE STUNTED GROWTH FOR LIFE.    
   *NO   
   ONE* IN AMERICA SHOULD GO HUNGRY.  AND POVERTY IS *PURELY* BECAUSE OF   
   _UNPLANNED   
   PREGNANCY_ ALL OVER THE WORLD, NOT A 1 CHILD PER WOMAN POLICY, AS EXISTED IN   
   CHINA, BUT MERELY A STOP TO UNPLANNED PREGNANCY.   
      
   USE BIRTH CONTROL!   
      
   IT'S WHY SEX WAS SAID TO BE IMMORAL.  AND SODOMY BECAUSE IT SPREAD DISEASE.    
   IT'S   
   NOT IMMORAL IF YOU USE SUFFICIENT PROTECTION!  IN TODAY'S DAY AND AGE,   
   PROTECTION   
   IS SUFFICIENT!  YOU CAN EVEN BE POLY-AMOROUS, AND YOUR WIFE WON'T BE BEARING   
   THE   
   BABY OF ANOTHER MAN!   
      
   TELL THE POPE!  MAKE THE POPE MORAL!  AFRICA'S POPULATION HAS QUADRUPLED SINCE   
   1950*, WHILE EUROPE & THE U.S.'S POPULATION HAS INCREASED BY LESS THAN 50%.   
   AFRICANS ARE HAVING 5-6 CHILDREN - WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE FOR ALL OF THEM?    
   WE   
   DON'T HAVE THE CAPITAL.  WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPITAL FOR OUR OWN PEOPLE.  IF   
   HEALTH   
   CARE IS A RIGHT, PERHAPS BIRTH CONTROL SHOULD BE AS WELL, FOR EVERYONE ALL OVER   
   THE WORLD.   
      
   FOR EVERY BABY WE PREVENT FROM BEING BORN WE HAVE SAVED $1 MILLION IN CAPITAL!   
   ISN'T THAT WORTH THE EXPENSE OF BIRTH CONTROL?   
      
      
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